ER1200 water torch

[Prophmaji]

Thanks Prophmaji,

That was very interesting. Can the flame be used to "drill" holes in glass, with little heating to the surrounding glass and, thus, less chance of breaking the object by thermal stresses?

If the flame comes near glass thinner than about two inches thick, it will virtually explode the glass on contact. it disrupts the surface molecular structure ...immediately. I'm using the word flame, but it is not a flame as you traditionally know it. It is more of an 'interesting energy interaction region' than anything else.

once again, glass is highly electrically resistive and the effect is abrupt and intense. Brick makes for a nice white light flare.

[ChileanOne]

Dear ProphMaji:

I'm fascinated by the mention of "transparent copper" You say you have actually made a copper silicate alloy!?!?!? That could alone revolutionize materials science!!!

Wheter HHO generation is OU or not, I think it has enough weird properties to be of interest per se and it's a shame science pays nil attention to this fantastic phenomena.

[Prophmaji]

Due to the way that the HHO gas works, it's difficult to say wether it is truly transparent copper or not, through simple eyeball observation. I stated that to get people thinking a bit.

One other thing that it can also be is..... semiconductive silicate copper. It is measurably semiconductive. It is copper mixed with a small bit of silicate and is now notably semi-conductive as opposed to conductive at the standard copper levels. A glassy kind of copper, but not in terms of perfect clarty, actually it's black. Copper oxide. The oxidizing effect that seems to be the main action of the gas during 'spin down' clouds the issue, literally. The action upon the tungsten seems to be clearly indicating an oxidation aspect.

It's one hell of a lot harder than copper is, on it's own. We're talking about small amounts of silicate in the copper, as well. Lots of crystalization.

As for it revolutionizing materials science, yes, that is abundantly true. There's gotta be a few hundred billion $ hiding away there, in the use and understandings of what can be done with it, stricly on the alloys issue alone.

As to the resistive vs conductive and solidus vs liquidus aspects of the 'action' upon the given element..this indicates at it is likely possible to alloy metals or materials that have melting temps that could be 1500 degrees apart, for example. This alone will create glassy or amorphous alloys.

What I do, as the 'flame' will sublimate the higest temperature crucibles immediately..is to use the flame to carve a groove in a firebrick. Then I fill that groove or trench..with lets say copper..or even CR-V tool steel. Then mix the silicates from the brick into it when it is melted, in the trench. Then I let it cool..and bust it open.

I get something like a crystallized geode, most of the time.

[ChileanOne]

Due to the way that the HHO gas works, it's difficult to say wether it is truly transparent copper or not, through simple eyeball observation. I stated that to get people thinking a bit.

One other thing that it can also be is..... semiconductive silicate copper. It is measurably semiconductive. It is copper mixed with a small bit of silicate and is now notably semi-conductive as opposed to conductive at the standard copper levels. A glassy kind of copper, but not in terms of perfect clarty, actually it's black. Copper oxide. The oxidizing effect that seems to be the main action of the gas during 'spin down' clouds the issue, literally. The action upon the tungsten seems to be clearly indicating an oxidation aspect.

It's one hell of a lot harder than copper is, on it's own. We're talking about small amounts of silicate in the copper, as well. Lots of crystalization.

As for it revolutionizing materials science, yes, that is abundantly true. There's gotta be a few hundred billion $ hiding away there, in the use and understandings of what can be done with it, stricly on the alloys issue alone.

As to the resistive vs conductive and solidus vs liquidus aspects of the 'action' upon the given element..this indicates at it is likely possible to alloy metals or materials that have melting temps that could be 1500 degrees apart, for example. This alone will create glassy or amorphous alloys.

What I do, as the 'flame' will sublimate the higest temperature crucibles immediately..is to use the flame to carve a groove in a firebrick. Then I fill that groove or trench..with lets say copper..or even CR-V tool steel. Then mix the silicates from the brick into it when it is melted, in the trench. Then I let it cool..and bust it open.

I get something like a crystallized geode, most of the time.

This stuff is really fascinating Proph. The unit you have is the one that is sold by Denny Klein?

I recall that once I made some very rough numbers with the data he provided about power consumption and HHO gas production, and based on an stimate of the energy content of the HHO gas (as hard as a data to obtain as is that one), I concluded that it was an OU process, but not enough OU to self sustain in a normal ICE generator setup. I wonder if a Tesla turbine would do the trick of getting the power from the HHO produced with enough efficiency to make the system self sustaining.

Those metal-silicon "alloys" you are having fun with seem worthy of their own chapter for material development.

[sebaw]

@Prophmaji: can u pls show us some pics of copper sillicate(glass) material ?

i am building an electrolisys unit for purposes of welding.....

you can see it at http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3249.0.html

SeBaW