Circuit setups for pulse motors

[casman1969]

@ Hoptoad

Still have'nt wound my hollow cores yet but have found a slightly different arrangement that improves efficiency. Simple reed switch to a relay for drive and the same for dumping charge back into battery.
So far, have 8 hrs where my scope voltage has not changed. Steady at 25V. Yes it jumps a bit ( .1V)every time I dishcharge back into the battery but losses are absolutely at the minimum.
Work is keeping me from the next step but I'm pumped!

Carl

[hoptoad]

Work is keeping me from the next step but I'm pumped!
Carl

Way to go Carl 

[casman1969]

Came in this morning and now find my readings are 25V (same as yesterday except it does now bounce down to 24.9V). What this proves to me is that all of us are fighting the battle of losses.
We loose it in the transistor or Mosfet or any mechanical switching such as commutators. Every .3 or .6v drop counts, at least in my setup. So from now on I'll be concentrating and experimenting with two things. First is to add large cap and a coil to keep it charged up enough to drive the relays and second to add pickup coils to feed more generated juice back to the battery. Both require more and different guages of wire. I'm now thinking all my pickups should be 24AWG instaed of 20. Will continue to use my Adams style drive coil(s) (I change it up) as my current draw on this 23" wheel with 12-2 X 1 X 1/2" Neos is now down to under 50ma or less (hard to tell with my analog 5A panel meter. It barely moves the needle off zero but still gives 120 rpm.
Hoptoad, I'd be open to suggestions as to overcoming these losses. More pickups? different switching? Don't really know at this point but what I do know is that the marriage of Adams and Bedini works well. Yes I'm still using the collector diode with the relays and it still works just fine.
Can't wait to get a little down time to wind my hollow cores.

Carl

[Artic_Knight]

ok, if i connect a diod from C to B and from the end of the coil to B essentially that allows any "energy" that is in the circuit to continue flowing to the positive side of the coil when i add a wire or connection from B to A... why cant you collect from both B and C at the same time? one is the curcuit discharge the other is coil and your still allowing a negative return path to the battery essentially providing the battery the "Loop" it needs to produce the "energy"  i can see where your  coming from with most of the motor and circuit setup thus far and thank you very much for helping me with this i have learned a great deal! but now i do not understand why 2 diods cannot be used one to collect at C and the other B and allowed to flow to A? as i look at them they could be properly isolated to prevent a short or reversal of currents so why would it not work?

my current understanding of electricity is that you can add different voltages throughout a curcuit, for instance fly back of 5 volt + fly forward of 1volt +battery voltage of 6volt = 12 volt into coil and it can vary or some of the votages come and go with no ill effect and with the diods to control flow minus the resistance of the diod should be added current reguardless of sources right?  perhaps the reason the flyforward doesnt work well is after the voltage is considered - the resistance of the diode theres nothing much left? but something still is and can be added?

thanks for all your help thus far and in the future! i hope one day soon to be able to contribute something to this group. i just got some supplies and i will be making the magnetic rotor very soon! soo excited.

[Artic_Knight]

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