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Giantkiller moves forward into Full Heterodyning.

Started by giantkiller, September 22, 2007, 12:39:11 PM

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aleks

Quote from: giantkiller on April 02, 2008, 02:09:21 PM
Just a side note:
The SM17 has inductors and caps placed similar to the LMD/TEM analog computer.
Just rolled up. :o

This gives a mobius configuration where the coil loops are in parallel and the caps are in parallel. Each pair communicates with itself. Instead of using multiple stages the effect is fedback at the end of each pulse which, by the way, is fired in 2 directions at once. One direction per one coil.

--giantkiller. Totally tanked, horizontally and vertically.
I guess capacitors are there to provide a flip-flop polarity on coils. Caps should not delay sinewave or change its shape that much. Nice approach - I have to try this myself (instead of using simple flip-flop connections).

So, if this arrangement works with a pure sinewave how it will behave with sawtooth pulses?

giantkiller

Quote from: aleks on April 02, 2008, 02:40:18 PM
Quote from: giantkiller on April 02, 2008, 02:09:21 PM
Just a side note:
The SM17 has inductors and caps placed similar to the LMD/TEM analog computer.
Just rolled up. :o

This gives a mobius configuration where the coil loops are in parallel and the caps are in parallel. Each pair communicates with itself. Instead of using multiple stages the effect is fedback at the end of each pulse which, by the way, is fired in 2 directions at once. One direction per one coil.

--giantkiller. Totally tanked, horizontally and vertically.
I guess capacitors are there to provide a flip-flop polarity on coils. Caps should not delay sinewave or change its shape that much. Nice approach - I have to try this myself (instead of using simple flip-flop connections).

So, if this arrangement works with a pure sinewave how it will behave with sawtooth pulses?

Caps yep. You would need diodes if the wave was ac in that it croxxes ground. Keep it positive or above ground. How else would the mag wave be kept going in the same direction. Jack it up then pump the resonance. 1 to 4 sets. 8) The triangle wave doesn't give the snap crackle pop we are looking for. Pressurize space quickly otherwise ya just got a wall transformer.
Now for smooth operation you would use a triangle wave and diodes again. Sine works too.

All SM TPUS are the same. The design varies only where the middle coil exists. The smaller ones are on the same circumferal edge as the initial coils. The larger units have that coil in the center. That solved the heat problem. ;)

I have been playing the opposite game of 'guess what answer I am thinking of'. Alot of obfuscation over the last 2 years and alot of people follow it hook and nail.
New gods, character defamation, thick thoughts, engineering encylos, theoretical pablum, Whew. I have yet to figure out who the smartest one here is. ;D

--giantkiller.  ;)

aleks

Quote from: giantkiller on April 02, 2008, 03:23:13 PMThe triangle wave doesn't give the snap crackle pop we are looking for.
Well, I'm not talking about triangle wave. Sawtooth is a totally different thing. Check it out.

giantkiller

Quote from: aleks on April 02, 2008, 03:45:57 PM
Quote from: giantkiller on April 02, 2008, 03:23:13 PMThe triangle wave doesn't give the snap crackle pop we are looking for.
Well, I'm not talking about triangle wave. Sawtooth is a totally different thing. Check it out.

You're right and I apologize. Wrong visual start for me. What I was really getting at is that when I shut the Fet off there is a diminishing ring after that. That ring would be advantagious in a tank circuit. Especially if the Fet is turned on again in that range. That makes the frequency only necessary to be faster than the circumference. Or only the on time. SM showed that diameter measurement for this reason. The starting energy path goes around and the high speed field traverses the center.

The on time is a bad reference. The shutoff would be a better place to look. This lets the ringing start. But I chose to use square waves. That lets me control the pressure on the electron in 2 directions. I see your point on the sawtooth. Apply slow pressure against the electron then let is snap back. The energy comes back into the device instead of exiting at high speed at the start of the pressure.

--giantkiller.


poynt99

btw, what does this whole tread have to do with the SM TPU?

what rubbish
question everything, double check the facts, THEN decide your path...

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