TPU - General Discussion

[Grumpy]

I remember when it was mentioned that when a running tpu was put in a bath of water it was a complete disaster because  in the air some give to the vibration is allowed and the water did not allow it.

a very interesting discussion here.

Let's all keep in mind also that water (pure, distilled) is an excellent dielectric - best around.

Tap water usually conducts OK do to the mineerals dissolved in it, hence no longer a dielectric.

Water is different "magnetically".

Water can store enormous electrical potential.

Changing the physical properties if the environment has a huge impact on the things in it, especially if they depend on it.

The fields/potentials at work in the TPU would probably undergo a radical change in a different medium (water vs air).  Place a light and a battery in water and it stays lit.  Drop a light in water on the end of an extension cord and BAM!

So, what type of water?  and what type of disaster?  I suspect all Hell broke loose, but perhaps not immediately.

Dosn't matter.  This is a huge clue.  Huge.

[innovation_station]

a question at what freq range do you see thease effects in the hho units ?

now what might happin if you take the water away from the system and do it with rings in air  hummmm........

ist

[BEP]

Water is diamagnetic and dipolar. Different magnetic and electric field strengths will produce different effects.
<correction - it can be dia or paramagnetic or both - depends on too many things>

These could have ranged form vortex creation or fast evaporation to instant conversion to H and O and a massive explosion. If the polarities were right the TPU may have simply blown the water out of the tub or sucked it out and drenched everyone.

[wattsup]

Hi all.

Just wanted to put this QAT up on this thread so you don't have to go back to see what he said during this demo.

QAT - Quotes, actions and time-stamps.
Comments will be in ( ).

START
34:07 (Opening scene in the garage.)

"This is my larger device.
Again, there's not really alot to it."

34:14 (Shows the lamps. Lamp talk.)

34:29 (He picks up the tpu without any hesitation. First grab. He knows the TPU is off.)

"Now this is the device here, that I am going to demonstrate to you.
Again, there is very very little to this device.
Wire is very important.
Coil operation is here. (He points to the silver box between the rings.)
And, if there were any batteries in here, they are very very very very small. Obviously."
(He is asked by the cameraman), "Are there any?".
(Caught off guard, he answers in a low murmur) "no".
(And quickly proceeds.)

"Now, we're going to start the device by again taking TWO VERY SMALL MAGNETS and placing them here on the receptors I have for them. The meter here is set on zero. Zero voltage. It's set at 200 volts DC. It's the meter range. It's now receiving zero voltage.

Again this unit is, is ahhh, vibrating probably around, an inherent vibration right around 6000 hertz.

First this is where I monitor voltage output here, and the device is putting out 91.1 volts, 91.0 volts, right around 91 volts.

Now to show you the current of this device.....
(He goes on talking about the multi-plug box, puts bulbs into the lamps, plugs them into the wall outlet to show the lamp brightness)

37:27 (While plugging the lamps into the plug box)

"When these are lit again it's going to be different because instead of 120 volts alternating current this device puts out 91.2 volts direct current. Actually it is an alternating current right around, ahhh, 6000 hertz. But for all intents and purposes it will show up as DC. That's why the meter is set on DC. 91.2 volts. So, the plug is in here. (plugs the first light) And look, we have electricity. And we'll give you one here. (Plugs the second light.) Again, we have electricity.

(Tells the cameraman) Come and pan across here to see what's happening.

Again I want to show you that, we'll move this box over here (moves the bulb box to the ledge) I want to show you these wires (holds the lamp wires and points to the tpu) traveling directly from this device, through here (points to the plug box) into these two lamps were we have two 60 watts light bulbs functioning. 91.2 volts is the constant voltage output according to this meter right here."

38:32 (He feels the tpu three times lightly and on the third time, he picks it up. He was expecting it to be HOT. Hot enough to want to check the heat before actually lifting it.)

"There's nothing around this machine. These things do put out a little heat. There's nothing anywhere around here, on this device, that could obviously generate 100 volts of electricity and 120 watts of power. There's no batteries. There certainly is not a computer capacitor inside this device that could generate this kind of electricity. Not possibly a battery small enough to fit inside this device that could possibly generate the amount of electricity necessary to light these two regular electric lamps."

"So... Thank you for giving me the opportunity to show you this video tape and what I have made so far. I will be producing video tapes of larger equipment that I have powered with such devices. I have a device slightly larger than this which will operate, uhhh, puts out about 200 volts of electric power at 20 amps. So as I continue to work on my project, I continue to be able to develop more electric power from the Earths natural electro-magnetic field."

END

[Mannix]

Esa,

That was the only reference to the importance of the meduim of air and it was in reply to alternate cooling methods that were discussed. I suggested using teflon hollow tube with refrigerant gas as a cooling method and it was agreed that it could be a good solution that was not yet explored.

It does suggest that during full operation the control coils may be  vibrating back and forth on the collector.

wether it is 7.3 ,5000,or 35,000 who knows?  They get hot..and NOT as a by product of current drawn...counter intuitive ...I Know !

I have always been convinced that it is the tpu config which is the "active" component.
Smashing slow dirty pulses of random spectrum square waves will just create noise.

Sine...or perhaps a ramp signal (as in tv scan coils) (as in a discharging cap) can be the only method  of  excitation as far as I can see. and i wont mention the devices that must be used to experiment with here.

Darren,
you took the words right out of my mouth.

Some "contributions" seem to offer less than nothing but out put of grief, failure and lack of responsibility....been there!. When we feel like that we should just back off  let the others get on with the great work that they are doing  rather that post.

Lindsay