Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[DrStiffler]

@ALL
A nice little Sunday look into the unknowns of SEC.

For those of you with the wire plug boards (I call them proto-boards) that still have an Exciter on one, here is a 5 minute test to perform that should cause a number of questions and additional understanding of the SEC theory and a SEC Exciter.

In the circuit included, put back the 400pF coupling cap between your load choke and the collector (same configuration we used from the start in almost all circuits). Add 6 1N4148's as shown. Place the neon at (A - A') and tune for max output. Now move the neon to (B - B')  then (C - C') followed lastly place the neon at the end of the diode string.

So what is happening, anything new or interesting?

[nickle989]

Hi all,

I need to sleep but she wont ... have a look: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NN5WV917

Luc

Nice ... I have seen this when using a solution with electrolite but never thought it would/could be done with just distilled water. 

Could you take a lead off the SEC connected to a plate that is not in solution and put it near one of the other plates in one of your empty slots, try both leads one at a time .. just to see if you create an energy transfer now that the cell is charged ... not sure if it will work . just wondering ... I would do it but I now waiting for some more parts, toasted my lasted transistor, by connecting a SEC lead to a ground rod ... talk about a fast energy collision ... lol.

[Loki67671]

@ALL
A nice little Sunday look into the unknowns of SEC.

For those of you with the wire plug boards (I call them proto-boards) that still have an Exciter on one, here is a 5 minute test to perform that should cause a number of questions and additional understanding of the SEC theory and a SEC Exciter.

In the circuit included, put back the 400pF coupling cap between your load choke and the collector (same configuration we used from the start in almost all circuits). Add 6 1N4148's as shown. Place the neon at (A - A') and tune for max output. Now move the neon to (B - B')  then (C - C') followed lastly place the neon at the end of the diode string.

So what is happening, anything new or interesting?

@Dr. Stiffler,

Starting point:
After initial setting supply was not adjusted, base coil was not tuned from first peak, just Ne moved as stated.

Supply Input reacted as following:
24.20 VDC  54ma        No Neon        1.30 Watt
24.07 VDC  64ma        Ne at A-A'      1.54 Watt
23.83 VDC  70ma        Ne at B-B'      1.66 Watt
23.63 VDC  74ma        Ne at C-C'      1.74 Watt
23.51 VDC  77ma        Ne at D-D'      1.81 Watt

Edit: After this point I did start tuning and adjusting voltages but the first series was recorded with the circuit untouched except for Ne load point. Loki

As the neon was moved from A-A' through D-D' the input power increased from 1.30 Watts to 1.81 Watts. Peak intensity of the Ne seemed to shift up in frequency as the Ne was moved A-A' to D-D' but power required for that peak intensity did not go back down. Ne was warm regardless of where it was.

I'm still thinking about this. 

Best regards,

Jim

[Loki67671]

  You'd think I would have the sense to graph this. 

Loki

[samedsoft]

Dear Dr. Stiffler, Loki, plengo,

   I have done some tests with the SEC circuit and below is the results.


Applied Voltage    Consumed Current (w/AlPlate)    Consumed Current (wo/AlPlate)
         20V                      17mA                                            21mA
         30V                      20mA                                            35mA
         36V                      28mA                                            50mA

   ** With Al Plate, it Neon is brighter and consumes less current.
   ** With building ground (connected to the Al plate connection port), And If we apply 30V SEC consumes 50mA!!

   Result: pumping electrons from Air via Aliminum plate is better than pumping from ground? Do you agree??


   We measured about 50VDc at the neon lamp when 36Vdc input applied.
   When we disconnect neon and measure the output voltage it is 180Vdc when 36Vdc input applied.

   Is there any way to inrease the output voltage to 1000V or 10 kV??

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Best Regards,
Nuri Temurlenk
MSc EEE. Automation Engineer