Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[Pirate88179]

Welcome back Dr.  Let's keep moving forward like you said.  It's about the work, not the people anyway.  Overall, I think this is a good group, you will see.

Bill

[SpongeDave]

Well it looks like I misjudged you!

Let me be the first to say that you ROCK!

Also, you are certainly not a fraud.

(But c'mon, that logo...)

>>(But c'mon, that logo...)
So what is wrong with my bird? That I will sell to you.

You are like me in that I also suffer from only hearing the negative.
Actually, you are what drew me to this site. 
I believe strongly in the 2nd Law of thermodynamics and probably wouldn't be caught dead here...

[DrStiffler]

Welcome back Dr.  Let's keep moving forward like you said.  It's about the work, not the people anyway.  Overall, I think this is a good group, you will see.

Bill

Thank you, we will get there even though we have moles that carry back to other groups false statements.

But I have decided to let other people clean that disgusting mess up.

And Please do continue the Dr., I earned it and when all comes out in the wash the moles will eat their words. 

[plengo]

@Adriano
Thanks for the request. I will do a series of tests on that level tonight. But, since you mention about the current I am very puzzled by it which comes to my question directed to

@Dr. Stiffer,
thanks for not leaving us and showing your work and even putting this effort for us to learn and may be improve on it. I did my simplified test (a few posts ago) only to eliminate many variables and be able to measure each individual step (I dont have the experience you have). I also tried one of the most simplified versions you posted with only the radio coil, the choque, cap, resistor and one led. I did succeed somewhat and I got the High voltage on the neon light and the led being lit.

My question: measuring the input current on my design (with only the leds and func gen) it was only about less than .10ma (one tenth of a 1 milliamp) and output current being .40ma and you just showed the math that implies a much higher current and voltage is necessary to light the leds, how is it possible that my design still lights 50+ leds? I measured the voltage accros all the leds and is still about 4.3volts. (I understand that somewhat my design is similiar to yours without the amplification, I think)

Fausto.

[DrStiffler]

@Adriano
Thanks for the request. I will do a series of tests on that level tonight. But, since you mention about the current I am very puzzled by it which comes to my question directed to

@Dr. Stiffer,
thanks for not leaving us and showing your work and even putting this effort for us to learn and may be improve on it. I did my simplified test (a few posts ago) only to eliminate many variables and be able to measure each individual step (I dont have the experience you have). I also tried one of the most simplified versions you posted with only the radio coil, the choque, cap, resistor and one led. I did succeed somewhat and I got the High voltage on the neon light and the led being lit.

My question: measuring the input current on my design (with only the leds and func gen) it was only about less than .10ma (one tenth of a 1 milliamp) and output current being .40ma and you just showed the math that implies a much higher current and voltage is necessary to light the leds, how is it possible that my design still lights 50+ leds? I measured the voltage accros all the leds and is still about 4.3volts. (I understand that somewhat my design is similiar to yours without the amplification, I think)

Fausto.

If you would please post a circuit diagram I will look at it and see if I can offer meaningful response to your questions.

The example I gave was from a worst case of the work I have done, (well maybe not the worst but close). Anyway there may be many things involved, certain LEDS are very sensitive and you can often get them to flash from the static you pick up when walking on a rug, holding one end and touching the other to a metal mass or ground. But I doubt that is you case, not for 50+ LEDS. I need to really see what you have to offer much. As far as input, it is a moot point if you use some on-board oscillator and worry only about the DC voltage and current supplying it. You can solve any problems from people claiming spikes by hanging a 0.01, 0.1 and 1,000 in parallel across the DC input. For the external oscillator this is where I get so much flak. I think my site explains the methods I have used and I think I may have talked about it earlier in the thread.

Like I say, can you provide a diagram and or picture.