Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[amigo]

Well, no more crappy flip-flop driver circuits for me, I am happy to announce that I now own a Wavetek 191 pulse/function generator (came in today, $100 on eBay)

I'm going to make some leads for it and test this again this time close to Dr.Stiffler's original tests. Still need to build an LC meter, but I got all the parts for that as well so I'm hoping this weekend to be a productive one.

Will post more as time goes by...

Oh...I'm looking into a Tektronix 2465A oscilloscope as well, anyone knows if that's a fairly decent one or should I search for something else. This one is sort of convenient - almost local to where I live...

[DrStiffler]

Well, no more crappy flip-flop driver circuits for me, I am happy to announce that I now own a Wavetek 191 pulse/function generator (came in today, $100 on eBay)

I'm going to make some leads for it and test this again this time close to Dr.Stiffler's original tests. Still need to build an LC meter, but I got all the parts for that as well so I'm hoping this weekend to be a productive one.

Will post more as time goes by...

Oh...I'm looking into a Tektronix 2465A oscilloscope as well, anyone knows if that's a fairly decent one or should I search for something else. This one is sort of convenient - almost local to where I live...

Well, no more crappy flip-flop driver circuits for me, I am happy to announce that I now own a Wavetek 191 pulse/function generator (came in today, $100 on eBay)

I'm going to make some leads for it and test this again this time close to Dr.Stiffler's original tests. Still need to build an LC meter, but I got all the parts for that as well so I'm hoping this weekend to be a productive one.

Will post more as time goes by...

Oh...I'm looking into a Tektronix 2465A oscilloscope as well, anyone knows if that's a fairly decent one or should I search for something else. This one is sort of convenient - almost local to where I live...

Did you buy this by gun point? These gen's are $1,495 new.

[abassign]

@plengo

"the current in/out and it is very interesting that the in current is less than .1 milliamp and the out can be as high as 20milliamp"

Is not clear, where are the point that the current is 0.1 mA and that is 20 mA ?

How thin was the thin wire ? If you cannot measure it, tries to wrap it on a cilinder and after 10-20 turns seeing how wide is.

If the electric wave is longitudinal, the current could change along the thread, you can measure the current in several points of the thread ? For instance if the thread is 50 ft. every 5/10 ft? This measure can allows to know as runs the current along the thread. You mast repeat the measure 2-3 times.

"I am working on that already. Soon I will be running this thing without the func-gen."

Perfect, measuring the power which feeds the circuit and isolating the circuit from the mass is very important.

I also tested this circuit in parallel ...  I have no current at all in the ground but when they are the "same wire" there is current on the ground. Figures!

It is necessary explain better what you have observed and send a diagram.
As you describe the experiment, do you can increase the LED number without reducing their luminous emission ? However is necessary to obtain an oscillator powered by batteries before to do the quantitative tests.

Are you able to do a test also with L1 (in or out the thin wire) ?

Best regards
Adriano (Italy)

[k4zep]

Hi all,

Look at pix attached.  1 led in series with the input, 10 LEDs on the output. Input and output single wire.  Oh, I live in a reinforced concrete building and I am in the middle of it.  FM or AM radio just don't work where my mini shop is (Worlds smallest lab). I have been through about 100 variations in the last hour and half, learning as I go. My Sig generator is 27V pp output floating as I have removed the ground connector on plug but of course there is inductive coupling to ground but all is floating right now.

Ben

Ben,
please can you test, how much dependend the output brightness  of your LEDs is
on the used signal generator voltage level ? 27 Volts pp ?

Input voltage PP vs. output seems linear but have really not measured it or graphed it.

What, if you used a lower driving voltage ?
LEDs are porportnately dimmer.

What frequency do you use ? Which is the best one ?  Depend on leads, etc. anywhere between 5-8 MHz.  Totally dependent on the resonant frequency of the series circuit driving the BF coil/core.
Can you go as low as 4 Volts peak to peak to drive it and
have still the LEDs lit the same brightness ? 

I can't but my coil is very NON STANDARD.  There are a whole bunch of variables in there as to number of turns, coupling, etc.  A real analysis of the circuit would take time and be a real brain teaser.  I'm sure @ 4V Peak to Peak I can get energy transfer across the circuit, whether there would be enough to drive a LED is a question.  You have to have enough to turn on the diodes in the AV plug @ their summing junction.  Then there has to be enough voltage and current to fire off the LEDs.  I'll know a lot more when I get my coils in.  I have some very nice litz wire that I can play around with a basic core and see if there is an optimum turn ratio on the device and answer a lot of questions I have as to what is going on.  It MIGHT have nothing to do with turn ratio up to a point and then it might have everything to do with the BF resonance frequencies within the mass of the core and then the resonance of the large coil around it to match that frequency for maximum energy transfer/out.  Another thing to remember is that this circuit can operate as a simple AV plug, one wire device @ under unity values.  So there is no problem lighting a LED with RF or AF with the AV plug, just not the gain you want!...........

[k4zep]

Well, no more crappy flip-flop driver circuits for me, I am happy to announce that I now own a Wavetek 191 pulse/function generator (came in today, $100 on eBay)

I'm going to make some leads for it and test this again this time close to Dr.Stiffler's original tests. Still need to build an LC meter, but I got all the parts for that as well so I'm hoping this weekend to be a productive one.

Will post more as time goes by...

Oh...I'm looking into a Tektronix 2465A oscilloscope as well, anyone knows if that's a fairly decent one or should I search for something else. This one is sort of convenient - almost local to where I live...

Well, no more crappy flip-flop driver circuits for me, I am happy to announce that I now own a Wavetek 191 pulse/function generator (came in today, $100 on eBay)

I'm going to make some leads for it and test this again this time close to Dr.Stiffler's original tests. Still need to build an LC meter, but I got all the parts for that as well so I'm hoping this weekend to be a productive one.

Will post more as time goes by...

Oh...I'm looking into a Tektronix 2465A oscilloscope as well, anyone knows if that's a fairly decent one or should I search for something else. This one is sort of convenient - almost local to where I live...

Did you buy this by gun point? These gen's are $1,495 new.

I cannot emphasize how important Ebay is for test equipment.  I live and die with equipment off there.  Most of my test equipment I get for less than 1/10 of what it cost new!  Of course you have to read the fine print and know what you are doing but for us old timers, what a deal!