Selfrunning cold electricity circuit from Dr.Stiffler

[DrZLowe7]

Ok, thank you,  then that's encouraging.    Assumptions are nothing bad as long as they're applicable and reasonable.


The break even point for OU in this case would be:

Vdiode =  0.936 watts / (8.6 mA x 52)  =  2.09 Volts

So you're assumption is well above this breakeven voltage drop / diode.      I would say you have something significant.

But to be sure, I would measure the DC voltage at the 10 uF capacitor.   If there is quite an AC ripple on it, I would filter the heck out of it with ferrites and include another capacitor if I have to. 

In my previous experimentation, I noticed typical LEDs give out quite a bit of light starting at 1.9 Volts and only get brighter from there.  I'm not insinuating your assumptions are not correct, don't missunderstand, I'm just trying to be carefull when it comes to excess energy measurements.   I made claims like this before and I later retracted.  Hopefully you won't have too.  I hope not.

EM

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In my previous experimentation, I noticed typical LEDs give out quite a bit of light starting at 1.9 Volts and only get brighter from there.

Agree, sorry I'm not where I can pull up the information, but there exist on the web a couple of papers on LEDS and frequency response. Of the two I am thinking of they are 100% opposed. One states that the eye sees a brighter LED when it is excited by RF vs. DC. The other paper says that is false, that as the frequency goes up it approaches DC closer, therefore DC will produce the maximum brightness.

I have worked with Red LEDS that will glow with currents I can not measure and flashed white LEDS from picking up 60Hz AC on a long wire. So indeed you have a valid point. Although you would be asking me to ignore my understanding and trust for my instrumentation much the same as I am asking an academic to look out of the box at my work. I feel comfortable with my measurements, even though there most likely exists 500k others that do not. So be it, what can one do?

I am sorry. Instead of reasoning on your math I made wrong conclusions. Some times my mouth goes faster than my brain when I think I am wright. I become more interested in proving my point. Maybe human nature or at least mine. You did try to explain your results to me and thanks. It is good however you seem a little more open now with your discussions.

[DrStiffler]

This one!

Yes! Now I understand. In reality about all I hope to gain out of all this is to be able to publish a paper 'Spatial Energy Coherence' which is indeed my view of what is going on here. If I can in some way get people to stop jumping on me as some kook, when it all is resolved I just may be able to find someone that will publish  'SEC'

Very, very simply put, the interface is capacitive and all matter is surrounded by unlimited amounts of energy in different forms. With a proper interface some of this energy can be cohered.

Maybe as time goes on I may add to this, but would prefer to leave it for a paper, and by that time I could be shown to be wrong in my view. Time and additional duplications will I hope clear it up one way or another.

Sorry I did not understand at first and do wish you would have respected the Copyrights......

[hartiberlin]

My blue LEDs have voltage drop of around 2.4 Volts per LED.
I get 24 Volts Pure DC at my 22 uF cap with no Rple at all. But my current is much smaller, less than 1 mA.
But I will built up now a better oscillator and post the results soon.
Have also to use the uptransforming voltage effect of the 2 coils on the ferrite core, so I will get a higher voltage on the LED chain...
By the way, 2.8 Volts drop on a white LED sounds right to me, so I trust in Ron?s measurements.
You already have almost pure DC on the LED chain after the 2 AP diodes also without a big cap measured with my scope, so the LEDs and the connector board capacitance seems to be enough stray capacitance for this.
Regards, Stefan.

[AhuraMazda]

@Ron,
Thank you for the reply and image removed!

Regards

AM

[DrZLowe7]

This one!

Yes! Now I understand. In reality about all I hope to gain out of all this is to be able to publish a paper 'Spatial Energy Coherence' which is indeed my view of what is going on here. If I can in some way get people to stop jumping on me as some kook, when it all is resolved I just may be able to find someone that will publish  'SEC'

Very, very simply put, the interface is capacitive and all matter is surrounded by unlimited amounts of energy in different forms. With a proper interface some of this energy can be cohered.

Maybe as time goes on I may add to this, but would prefer to leave it for a paper, and by that time I could be shown to be wrong in my view. Time and additional duplications will I hope clear it up one way or another.

Sorry I did not understand at first and do wish you would have respected the Copyrights......

The schematic that was posted I got from this forum. Not your web site and sent it in a private email that got posted. I was not copying direct information from your site and I did not know at that time the information was copyrighted. As I never seen an copywright discloser on the schematic or should I say picture. Sorry again. If there was a discloser sorry I did not notice it.