Here it is, Bessler's 12 ft wheel

[Dgraphic911]

@hans

Forgive me here, an am new to this forum as well as forums in general. Hans i have enjoyed reading most of your replies on many different subjects posted and consider your insight extremely helpful. I have a thought, which when your new to a forum may have been asked (if so i apologize). But in regards to your obvoius education on the time period and the people of Besslers time.

Q: if this device was being shown to so many people and it appeared to work, How is it that noone ever just took the device and used it for themselves. I know i may seem tyranical but thats the thought that crossed my mind. If its in my castle and I have the guards then possesion in 9/10ths as they say. I am just curious how a 1 man or even a few could stop anyone else from "looking behind" the curtain as it were ? Why did noone relieve bessler of his possesions? How does anyone in a feudal society demand high payment for something that can easily be taken?

I ask myself , if bessler was in my garage today and showed me this wheel  but was ranting and raving about money and threatening to destroy it, what would i do ?

Anyone else who may have an opinion i would love to hear it.
This site is great. 

[Joh70]

i would respect the inventors decision and ask him to lower the price. if not, he can go home. His sponsor Landgraf Karl zu Hessen promised him not to tell anybody about its function-principle. therefor Bessler showed him the interior of his wheel. integritiy is more than money, even when this has disadvantages.

[pequaide]

What I think is the power stroke of Bessler?s wheel is found in: Free energy from gravitation using Newtonian Physics.

It only shows you how to make energy, and the current models only go through one cycle. A cycling model would be far less complex than a piston engine, and is easily within the engineering capacity of a small machine shop.

If Bessler was successful; I think he incorporated this cylinder and spheres concept into a portion of his wheel. It is not about balance it is about momentum conservation.

At 26 RPM the average mass of the wheel is moving at 2.5 m/sec; only a small portion of this momentum needs to be transferred to a rigid pendulum in order that the pendulum could rise 1 meter and then the bob locked in its drive position.     

[AB Hammer]

Dgraphic911

Why did noone relieve bessler of his possesions? How does anyone in a feudal society demand high payment for something that can easily be taken?

I ask myself , if Bessler was in my garage today and showed me this wheel  but was ranting and raving about money and threatening to destroy it, what would i do ?

Anyone else who may have an opinion i would love to hear it.
This site is great. 

Well it can be very simple, Karl could have been waiting on his cut for protection. Bessler had many supporters as well and to just try to take it without some form of legal coverage, would most likely cost you your life. Not to mention you would have had to kill Bessler to take it as well for he would not have given it up easily. Bessler was worth more alive so he would have been protected. IMO

Pese 

I just ordered the DVD of closeups and the book on Asa Jackson. The story is that there are some missing parts and the people who reassembled it didn't do it correctly either for it was in peaces. So I thought I would give it a closer look. Who knows he could have got a hold of some original Bessler writings and drawings as well.

[hansvonlieven]

@hans

Forgive me here, an am new to this forum as well as forums in general. Hans i have enjoyed reading most of your replies on many different subjects posted and consider your insight extremely helpful. I have a thought, which when your new to a forum may have been asked (if so i apologize). But in regards to your obvoius education on the time period and the people of Besslers time.

Q: if this device was being shown to so many people and it appeared to work, How is it that noone ever just took the device and used it for themselves. I know i may seem tyranical but thats the thought that crossed my mind. If its in my castle and I have the guards then possesion in 9/10ths as they say. I am just curious how a 1 man or even a few could stop anyone else from "looking behind" the curtain as it were ? Why did noone relieve bessler of his possesions? How does anyone in a feudal society demand high payment for something that can easily be taken?

I ask myself , if bessler was in my garage today and showed me this wheel  but was ranting and raving about money and threatening to destroy it, what would i do ?

Anyone else who may have an opinion i would love to hear it.
This site is great. 

G'day Dgraphic and all,

This is a question I have been asking myself for a long time. There are many things about Bessler that are mysterious, like who was he and where did he come from.

I have spoken on this in other places but here are the main points.

Bessler was literate in German and Latin, not a common thing in his day. He was an accomplished draftsman, judging by his drawings. He had a good grounding in physics and engineering of the day. He had access to the crowned heads of Germany at least, if not of Europe. He worked, at least some of his life, for a living by designing and building things. In fact he was killed in a work related accident while building or repairing a windmill. He had also access to substantial funds as the publication of his book shows. It is a beautiful edition, not cheap to produce.

This is the most unusual profile of anyone I have ever heard of in that time period.

Where did he get his education? Who paid for it? Why could he seemingly mix at will with the gentry?

These are unanswered questions.

My best guess is that he was the illegitimate, but loved, son of a prince or king or at the very least someone very high up in the aristocracy with immense power. It is the only thing that makes sense to me.

Hans von Lieven