Power ratio over one

[supersam]

hey david,

why don't you just make a video of your device running and post it?  why have you not thought about closing the loop?  you say you have done extensive testing for over a year, and yet you have not been concerned at all about the power used to do the testing of a free energy device?  sounds a little strange to me.  let's say i am from missouri, show me!!!!  if it sounds to good to be true it probably is.

lol
sam

[handyguy1]

Hay Sam:
I am in the process now. I have just completed the rough draft of the material list, assembly, and operating procedures. I am concerned about you using the term ?free energy?. Ask ten people what ?free energy? is and you will get ten different answers. In my humble opinion, there is no such thing. Nowhere in my writings will you find that term. I don?t use the term ?over unity? either. Again, ask ten people?

First and foremost my goal is to provide proof the first law of thermodynamics is incorrect. Cynics maintain that the only proof is to close the loop. That?s pure ignorance and a slap in the face to the engineers who take voltage measurements every day. I am absolutely amazed that cynics and skeptics alike would accept ?anything? as being absolutely correct. Anyways, I will be posting on the Yahoo OU-builders group first. There, people are willing to walk the walk more so than talk the talk. Know what I mean? I really don?t mind bantering on the subject, but the cynics, ?no you can?t?liar? is really getting old, and completely un-useful. I am fortunate to be alive in this century and not in Galliano?s!

Specifically addressing your question of ?closing the loop?. Sam, lets do some critical thinking together. From the alleged thousands of so-called ?Free energy? devices, what do they have in common? Right, they all hooked the output to the input, and failed miserably. A part of science is understanding failures and not repeating them.

You sound like an intelligent young man. I hope you make an apparatus yourself. This is new physics. Instead of fighting it, please join in.
David Middleton
handyguy1@verizon.net

[MeggerMan]

Hi Handyguy,
I wonder if your device is related to the EBM:
http://www.gammamanager.com/

This seems to have slanted coils or coils offset from the diameter line of the rotor.
I would be interested to see the results of a test run with a fixed load like a lamp (showing current/voltage), and the input current/voltage readings.
You may need to rectify/smooth the output to enable you to get an accurate output result.
It does not look difficult to build this and I am sure a lot of people on this forum would jump at the chance of replicating it.
I have a rotor all setup and ready to go, just need to add the coils + control circuit:



Regards
Rob

[gyulasun]

Hi David,

I basically agree with you on the question of looping i.e. people experience failure.  Why? Because people building such devices ought to possess the gift of the "Jack of all trades" in a positive sense: they ought to be professional electrical, mechanical, chemical and so forth engineers (besides the ability of thinking outside of the box) in order to realize the nature of the extra output, how it could be REGULATED and MATCHED with the lowest loss possible before looping back to the input.

It is even possible that the received output does not come in a form we get used to and handling it in a conventional way invariably leads to failure.

I understand your goal of providing proof  of the first law of thermodynamics being incorrect but then you have to really find a smaller group of people who are willing to find proper means of measuring the output with respect to the input power. You seem to have made this step to find that yahoo group you have hinted at and I hope you will have favorable reception than at free_energy group.  The latter is thoroughly moderated as you may have noticed.
I would still be interested in understanding the principle of your device.

EDIT: You wrote you had eliminated or radically reduced the main heat causing forces like eddy currents hysteresis and back emf.  I know how you did the first two but how you solved the question of back emf that is one of my main questions... Another puzzle is what you also wrote: "A pure resistive load does not equal a power factor of one and I cannot find any heat even in the resistors".  This would mean a different kind of electricity is coming out from your output coil?  I guess the trick maybe is you connect coils in parallel?  Can you say you reduce the effect of Lenz law in the output coil(s) too with the parallel connections? Or with something else...
Thanks
Gyula

[handyguy1]

Hay Gyula:
How refreshing; It?s oblivious that you have done some critical thinking on this subject! I just posted to ou_builders, and uploaded two videos to you tube. I?d be happy to have you join the ou_builders group.
David Middleton
handyguy1@verizon.net