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Overunity Machines Forum



Working Magnetic Motor on you tube??

Started by Craigy, January 04, 2008, 04:11:39 PM

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Some people posted on youtube or forum about the motor. Saying even Al's motor is real thing, it has no future becuase when adding a load, it will slow down and die.

I don't agree at all. Here's why.

After Al finger started his motor, it speed up. The rotor gets like 1700 rpm. The energy gain is what we need. At worst, we can build a rotor weights a lot, use small energy to start it up, and let it die on the pick speed. Use that wind down energy to charge battery. When it stops, re start it again.

Am I have a point?

vipond50

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on February 11, 2008, 10:17:24 PM
Hello All,

I have been unable to achieve AGW even one time with this new rotor, using N38's in the rotor.  I hope to contact Mike tomorrow about the identical bearings as Al's.  Sorry it is taking a bit.

I did oil yesterday, the rotor bearings.  Reading Omni's post, that was a bad idea.  I have even tried to use a dremel to achieve AGW and it will not lock.  Any ideas?

@ Sean, Omni and Bill and Andrea
Are all of you using screws that are attracted to a magnet, inside of your stators, as Al was?? 

@ Rob
Tell me it isn't so!!  LOL   ;) :D ;D

Cheers all,

Bruce
Hi Bruce
Well I have been there to and it is frustrating. What i did to reduce the magnetic effect between the bearing and the Stator mag was to temporarily install a small Steel washer between the two. The washer will attach its self bas expected, but will reduce or change the magnetic field effecting the the freeness of rotation. The main thing is that the washer dies not touch the cap screw. U will know it due to the noise. Give this a shot and see how it effects AGW.

I also machined up a brass bushing assembly to replace the bearing in the stator. The setup turns very freely when clear of the rotor and at very low rotor turns(rpm's), but as the rotation Ve's increase the stator locks up. Ended up removing the assembly and went back to bearings. Just had to try it to see.

The SHCS that I used are 316 SS alloy so the magnetic response is very, very low.
Hope this helps

Best Regards
Bill

Omnibus

@Bruce_TPU,

QuoteI did oil yesterday, the rotor bearings.  Reading Omni's post, that was a bad idea.  I have even tried to use a dremel to achieve AGW and it will not lock.  Any ideas?

Did you use specifically ?Liquid Wrench Lubricating and Penetrating Oil? and not any other lubricant? Like I said, this particular one applied to the stator (not so much to the rotor) made the big difference in my rig. It was like night and day regarding the AGW lock.

Omnibus

@Bruce_TPU,

Forgot to answer this (sorry about that):

QuoteAre all of you using screws that are attracted to a magnet, inside of your stators, as Al was?? 

No, my stator shafts (screws) are non-magnetic, they are not attracted to a magnet.

Bruce_TPU

@ Omni
I used precision lubricator from Radio Shack.

@ Bill
Thank you for the tip, I will try it.

Big Question:
Were Al's screws for his stators magnetic or non magnetic?   ??? 

If you do not think it matters, then think about each stator screw acting as a damper both to the stator and rotor, throwing the whole thing off.

I would suggest switching to magnetic screws to test, and attempting to achieve AGW lock and see if there is a difference!   ;)

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.