Tri-Force Magnets - Finally shown to be OU?

[Omnibus]

How any Why would an additional superimposed field be neccessary for COE demonstration?

i dont follow this line of logic.

yes i agree with your point that the SMOT needs this extra field.
but i dont see how that relates in any way to the device we are discussing here.

An illustration is the horizontal variant of this device. As far as I can see so far the energy needed to make the piece enter the zone of attraction is the same as the energy gained when the piece exits the stations. This can be easily demonstrated when a closed loop of stations is assembled as Butch LaFonte has already done. As you can see in his experiment, the rotor stalls in the trough in between two potential peaks. That'll always be the case unless there's a properly superimposed additional field to assist overcoming the follow up barrier. .

This kind of solution is applied by @xpenzif, applying additionally the independent field of a stepper motor, something which was missed by everyone trying to replicate his motor. I guess something like this has to be applied here as well in the horizontal variant.

[Omnibus]

See, this repulsion at the entrance here bothers me, compared to SMOT where there is none. In this case, however, there's an advantage over SMOT--the exit doesn't necessarily require gravitational pull which allows the delivery back at the entrance straightforward. There's this nasty barrier at the entrance, however. Will it be able to overcome it to become self-sustaining? Judging from Butch LaFonte's experiment, the answer is in the negative. There are other designs, though, which may offer a different outcome, who knows. By the way, Butch LaFonte's experiment is exactly as @xpenzif's without the superimposed additional field from the stepper motor.

[sm0ky2]

i found that the repulsion at the entrance is easily overcome by a 45-degree decline of about 2 inches in height (down ramp) placed in front of the gates. This gives us an inertial reference point, outside the magnetic influence field - (mgh).

the roller then travels through the repulsion zone, into the gates, through the gates UP an incline and out of the gates to a point HIGHER than 2 inches.

im going to see how far i can take this thing, and clean it up a little. The pure fact that it ends up higher than it started shows this has potential. This method simply "gets around" the repulsion field. leaving us with pure linear amplification.

another video comming soon

[Omnibus]

@smOky2,

Will wait for this video with great interest. Good luck.

[Rusty_Springs]

Hi sm0ky2
The entrance is easy to over come if I remember right you had a setup with extended sections and you sent the roller through about 3 gates, if you take the extentions off the second gate this gives you a distance between the first and second gate that makes the second gate inderpendent of the first, if the roller starting from the first extended gate doesn't go through the second gate then use a heavier roller and it should run past the repultion comming in and go through the second gate, if you can't do it I will show a video showing what I mean, the expultion comming in is so weak with momentum the roller can break though and the extentions on the first gate give enough force to break the repultion comming into the second gate.
Take Care sm0ky2
Graham