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Most efficient method of electrolysis?

Started by BradleyH20, March 28, 2008, 07:05:21 PM

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Creativity

vacuum production has not been provend yet to my knowledge.How have u measured the output that u state (rockinricki)?

there is some discussion going on about it under:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4216.0.html

to reduce the amps so it wont heat up too much use less KOH or NaOH.U can find an optimum between the temp and production rate.Heat is mainly due to the ions movement,the more ions u have (more KOH) the more of them moves raising the heat.
stainless steel works just fine for electrodes.Connect electrodes in series to reduce the voltage to around 2V per cell.Separate the cells best so u will reduce the currents between the cell and the surrounding cells(ions take there a longer journey and loose a lot of energy into heating up of the electrolyte).With this advices u will stay with moderate temp and high production,efficiency of electrodes is what i am in to right now,stay tuned.

@spewing

Interesting theories u have there,but the oxygen/air ratio's calculations of fuel air is what u miss understood.I made an effort in other post to calculate engine needs for HHO check it, update your knowledge on AFR.U will also see that engine would run very lean on air/HHO mixture...

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4424.msg89308.html#msg89308

Running on hot electrolyte makes more water vapour so that is one point of too much KOH in the electrolyte.Second thing is u will produce more mass of HHO so your engine will need more adjustment comparing to small amounts produced in other ways.That is the engine running like diesel effect and has nothing to do with oxygen being dirty.Flame speed is high causing stronger detonations and makes engine run harder.Smoother operation on HHO from other cells is due to the less HHO they produce.Engine was not tuned correctly thus.
Blues it through your outstanding life,leaving more than just footsteps behind (1999 B-stok by me).

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drewdog

I have the super hydro 2 unit. I have not installed it yet, i am bench testing it finalizing my solution mixture, but so far it works really well. I have the double unit. The best way I can describe his design is stainless washers mounted inside a stainless pipe. they have one charge the walls have another. the other nice design he uses is a bubbler that is connected to the generator both for output and return. it makes  a nice circulation that tends to cool your liquid. i think you could do the same for smacks design, but it would have to be in the engine bay or in front of the radiator. basically the gas and liquid come out feed to tank and the bottom of tank goes back to the bottom of the generator. it is a full immersion unit and the hydro carries fluid with it to the tank. nice idea and it works fairly well. i cannot reach one of my o2 sensors, thank you ford. so i have been waiting to install unit to verify savings. will install anyway this week.

Sprocket

Quote from: ramset on April 17, 2008, 06:55:54 AM
ROCKIN I also am more interested in home heating  and like the idea of straight water  are you having any success ? THe Stiffler thread here has some HHo work with distilled water that should be  very  very interesting   also Bob Boyce has  a DC circuit as described above for running cars   HUGE HHO production!!!   PS I THINK STIFFLER IS GOING TO CHANGE EVERYTHING  as far as HHO is concerned  A MUST WATCH if your into hydrogen      Chet

Yep, Stiffler is onto somethig big it appears - though as the water appears to become o2 saturated, it might be a fire hazard (a bit ironic!) :)

Here is the video in question: http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=k1pJEz0YGlQ

Magnethos

Hi, the most efficient method of electrolysis that I have seen until now is one that appears in a youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHxAebQoFHE

This guy claims that he has invented this method, but I haven?t been able to find more information about it.

Sprocket

Quote from: Magnethos on April 18, 2008, 06:51:12 AM
Hi, the most efficient method of electrolysis that I have seen until now is one that appears in a youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHxAebQoFHE

This guy claims that he has invented this method, but I haven?t been able to find more information about it.


Impressive video. However Dr. Stifflers method is much more efficient:

ddanvos68: 5,000 * 30mA = 150W
Stiffler = 20 * 9mA = 0.18W

That's about 800 times more efficient :)

Of course, he is probably creating a lot more hydrogen.  Either way, these developments really make a mockery of the conservation of energy dogma...