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OU/COP>1 switched cap PS cct like Tesla's 'charge siphoning'

Started by nul-points, April 04, 2008, 11:49:23 PM

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MinEth3r

hahaha... not much here risk here... thanks for the tip about the thread, will post there if an idea pops out of my effort.

IMHO Evans and al. 's  ECE isn't viable.
http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Beware/MyronEvansCensorship/Rodregues/index.html
http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0703116 and 117 go hand in hand with the previously mentioned "non sequitur" paper.

Argumentally-coupled oscillators - atomic or otherwise - are the newest step forward for me, it does make sense, maybe even related to your charge anomaly phenomena! As to what I had in mind, a quick and dirty simulator with part  implemented as equivalent-circuit equations all thrown together and reduced, pfff.... Still wrapping my brain around quasiperiodic systems, sooo still some way to go. Will try nevertheless to code something interesting by the end of next week. And Eric's unquantum theory to associate with ACOs... That's what I'm working at, sorry for being a bit aloof :O)

All the best,
MinEth3r

nul-points

thanks for looking Min

i don't think i've identified any particular resonance in my switched-charge experiments so far, but interestingly, i zoomed in on the voltage trace of the charging output cap recently and saw a low-level ripple around 7 or 8Hz - this doesn't appear to be related to anything in the switching regime (approx 200uS charge pulse and approx 2mS repetition rate)

i tried decreasing switching repetition rate to around 8Hz but the circuit didn't achieve usual overunity mode

the inductor 'sings' slightly during switching but i don't think this is unusual - except for it being another dissipation of energy even whilst the whole system is overunity


will be interested to see what you serve up for us simulation-wise soon

regards
sandy

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MinEth3r

Thanks for speaking some mind (in)to me, Sandy.
I'll try to dwelve deaper into what I'm doing while I'm at it, on your thread. :O) hehe

This phenomena of low level ripple although the frequency isnt high, might be significant.  Frequency's  interplay on the coupling, as clearly and cleanly defined in NIA1 from Distinti, is an inversely proportional relationship. So high frequency ripple can and will shuttle around more energy as also seen in Distinti's work, with scope traces to demonstrate it.

My athemoment highest hope is almost wrapped up: use the Doubochinsky/Reiter beat even/odd wave principle (once its fully understood, for that copule more things to digest, since I'm aimaing at the full Quaternionic Treatment from the start) to simulate large numbers of atoms (bus bars, touch switches/half capacitors, full capacitors - so maybe the effect is in the spiral construction of an electrolytic cap - effortlessly from first principle from a seed upwards, not from zero, as per Distinti. I understand it's a hard problem, but I'll bring my input in the mix.'

First geometry wise, from Wildberger one can (and almost must!) work in a quadratic modular space -space of geometrical entity such as lines, area, volumes, being in fact products of n-1 differences, n points but n vectors, from n+1 projective point matrices to n matrices f vectors - , a modular space being a vector space but with rings (litterally, algebraically, much like a finite size number/variable/register (macro-)mechanical or (micro-mechanical)electrical ); at the coefficients. All thos only to say: even our actual formal definition of a vector space (not vector space ?la Smarandache!, the classic one on top of a field instead of a ring) is missing the vector product completely. Once one will do this and use this power, much more doors will open at a far less cost in time and money spent on the damn things :O)

So I have to recast Distinti excellent theoretical results into a more algebraically geometric form (with squared areas and distances all over; as NJWildeberger found out, one must do it to get instantly the four possible (one being equality, so in fact _three_; up to scaling factors) symmetric forms, the blue, the red, the green; blue = red + green) There will lies the Gems, new theorems, advanced findings in easy, overlooked places. After they are found, one must do some historical research (Jefimenko's work, Riemann force law Vs Distinti, in fact how does it all plug up in the old litterature, lots of interesting but disparate paper, a review should be written in fact, about point charges/objects and forces acting on them. Not one has been thorough enough, not even ATK De Assis' one on relative electrodynamics!

    Second, third time derivatives are supposedly not needed, but in fact they are, instead of magically changing the acceleration through a formula, one can physically augment the pure math saying acceleration of position is enough with one that says on do acceleration of speed, the control/jerk of position hehe to get a third time derivative and change _these_ values with magical coordinate formulas.
Parametrization of third time derivatives..., in fact since every force lags, every force isn't instantaneous, one to second order approximation has to consider third derivatives and fourth time derivative if time can change direction :O)

    Third, with the correct theory/roadmap (mechanical doppler with own frequency affected, beating waves exchanging energy between systems naturally, no gapping geometrical hole in the theory) associated with correct math (maybe fourth time derivative, third for sure; with a lot of geometric algebra thrown in, G. Sobczyck's no-nonsense linear algebra, U. Gerlach's Linear Mathematics in Infinite Dimensions, both free, Gsponer's work too, so much out there :O)

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Sorry, gotta go! When it was getting interesting, A. Gsponer's work is so massive I'm in awe.
got to do other stuff, shall be enough t'il then, will be working on simulating something part time, so overjoiced by this...
and your input on the phenomenology, thanks again. Next post will hopefully have some code.

All the best,
MinETh3r

MinEth3r

Hi there everyone, Sandy,
     here's a status report on my previously exposed undertaking.

    As of code, look no further, the only code I wrote was in the TryIt W3School Javascript prototyping engine, experimental array-based math on finite fields using my "A=-1 mod n" scheme, nothing worth posting here came out of it, really. Got my mul and addition table generation okay, but more pressing matters came right in front of my eyes with albeit perfect timing :O) First ought to learn what to program and then try to model passage of time in it.

Here's recent, exciting material related to my current effort.
* WildTrig23 Video, on Youtube
* 0808.2496 Gogberashvili - Rotations of Split-Octonions, on the ArXiv.
Those two are really on topic, they both show something essential!

What I have to do
* Get rid of Sin and Cos (one could say floating point math) in the modeling of an Harmonic or otherwise Oscillator.
* Get a clear picture of the algebra of 3D space, scalar + 3 unit vectors + 3 bivectors (planes)+ volume.
    It isn't associative, but with the modified/geometric Fano Plane it is much clearer now. Still murky to me, since a couple of notions not entirely understood yet, but still great leap toward understanding non-associativity. It is my hope that non-commutativity and non-associativity can be tackled at the same time.
* Apply the previously outlined math to Distinti's work.

    While investing how to tackle non-associativity in the split-octonions/?Geometric Algebra?, this too came to light: Generators for finite simple Moufang loops, math/0701701 . Also other workers published on the ArXiv explicitly about wave equations on the octonions, using a Dyon-based formalism, probably worth adapting to Distinti's correct force equations. BTW the Saint Alban Quaternionic book doesn't come up with the correct force equation between moving charges, see page 30-31 for the crux of the matter, top of p.31 is wrong, but the other one need a more definitive look, maybe, after a closer look haha :O)

    On the numerical front, the ArXiv paper 0808.1883 entitled "High-order low-storage explicit Runge-Kutta schemes for equations with quadratic nonlinearities" ought to be useful, when the above homework is done. Just discovered this one too: "An iterative method for numerical integration of rational functions", 0808.2748, just from the title sounds useful :O) Didn't read it yet, gotta go to work!

All the Best,
MinEth3r


MinEth3r

Lost a post from an error, wll be brief and dense.

0 12345678abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvw x yzZYXWVUTSRQPONMLKJIHGFEDCBA
F_61, being finite field modulo 61 is marvelous, 4-wise, 7-wise- 5-wise 3-wise

its beautiful with some of the gems like this
    http://primes.utm.edu/curios/page.php/61.html
in mind.

http://lanl.arxiv.org/abs/0807.2047 Mandatory read! ;O) : Symplectic geometry is there in the null trace matrix; hello, rational trig to the rescue, wonder what it can really do :O),

The Five Points Pose Problem : A New and Accurate Solution Adapted to any Geometric Configuration

The goal of this paper is to estimate directly the rotation and translation between two stereoscopic images with the help of five homologous points. The methodology presented does not mix the rotation and translation parameters, which is comparably an important advantage over the methods using the well-known essential matrix. This results in correct behavior and accuracy for situations otherwise known as quite unfavorable, such as planar scenes, or panoramic sets of images (with a null base length), while providing quite comparable results for more "standard" cases. The resolution of the algebraic polynomials resulting from the modeling of the coplanarity constraint is made with the help of powerful algebraic solver tools (the Gr?bner bases and
the Rational Univariate Representation).
[...]
This constraint has been often used by the community of computer vision since three decades. As pictured in the Fig. 1, the condition of coplanarity between
two images expresses the fact that the vector âˆ'â†' V1, the vector âˆ'â†' V2(expressed in the reference of âˆ'â†' V1), and the vector of the translation âˆ'â†' T are in the same plane, called the epipolar plane. One can translate this condition by a null value for the triple product between these 3 vectors. In other words: [volume of geometric product V1V2T = 0]
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