OU/COP>1 switched cap PS cct like Tesla's 'charge siphoning'

[AbbaRue]

@alan
I'm refering to the "Tesla Charge Siphoning" that this thread is about.
I tested the circuit on my electronic simulator and I found a hookup that works just like in the video.

Using a SPDT relay switch.
Connect the "common" terminal of a relay to the Coil's terminal.
Connect the "normally on" terminal to the Battery's terminal.
Connect the "normally off" terminal to the Capacitor's terminal.
Place a light bulb between the battery negative and the coil to act as a limiting resistor. (20 ohms)
Then each time you briefly pulse the relay the capacitor receives a high voltage charge from the coil.
Using a 20 ohm resistor the simulator measures 224 volts.
The lower the resistor the higher the voltage so when building this watch you don't exceed the voltage of your capacitor.
You can get thousands of volts. 
The internal resistance of the coil and it's saturation point will determine the maximum voltage.

[CTG Labs]

Dear Sandy and all,

This morning I have been able to perform some tests.

Basically I have transferred some charge from one cap to another via an inductor which is pulsed.  I have used two 1 Farad caps with a programmable uC to control the pulse duty and number of pulses.  There is also a flyback diode.  It is the same circuit as posted by Sandy except I replaced the oscillator with uC and opto-coupler so as to ensure no energy enters the circuit here.

So far a very low eff has been found.  However I have used a very high inductance coil which also has a very high DC resistance in which energy can also be dissipated.  So it will be necessary to use a very low resistance, high inductance coil.  Something with low turns on a ferrite rod so that mostly all the energy dissipated will be in R1 only.  I do not wish to measure energy in the coil due to reactive power issues complicating the measurements???

So far the figures are:

START ENERGY C1: 78.25 Joules
END ENERGY C2: 74.29 Joules
ENERGY INPUT: 3.96 Joules

ENERGY USED IN R1: 629mJ

ENERGY STORED IN C2: 075mJ

ENERGY OUT: 704mJ

COP = 0.704 / 3.96 = 0.177

Some further figures:

Start coloumbs C1 12.51
Start coloumbs C1 0

End Coloumbs C1 = 12.19
End Coloumbs C2 = 0.389

Charge conservation is maintained in this test, thus energy will also be!

By the way, as you can see I did not drop the voltage by 1v, but this was only because using 1F caps and a large coil, the time constant was so long that it would go outside the data recording time of my equipment and I would not have been able to export all the data to excel for analysis



Regards,

Dave.

[poynt99]

@ Dave, all.

This may be of some help, maybe not.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item207

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[nul-points]

hi Dave

great you're able to start some measured testing now - thanks for the post


yes - you definitely need to attend to the load-to-loss ratio to see the overunity effect at the load (otherwise too much I^2*R energy gets dissipated in the coil)

my load is 10R and the coil DC resistance is 0.5R

also, since you have uC control you don't need such large valued caps - this makes it easier to get a more accurate measure of input energy when dealing with single cycles of charge pulse-train & discharge

i use PC control & opto-isolation and i can use 200uF caps for C1 & C2, coil can be a few mH and fraction of an ohm DC res

you should see approx 0.75 input energy stored in C2 & around the same dissipated in Rload whilst charging

so when you discharge C2 back thro' the load after being charged you get the other 0.75 input energy released

total output energy will be approx 140-150% of input energy

good luck!


hi Poynt

thanks for the link - it wouldn't allow me to access it, but maybe i followed the link before i was logged in - i'll try again

all the best
sandy
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[nul-points]

hi Poynt

amazing amount of work you put into that document - i think, sadly, it will be wasted on the Capn


this thread (which was able to start reporting measured OU results back in May of this year, whilst the Capn was still knee-high to a Cabin Boy) is looking at the same capacitor-to-capacitor charge anomaly from a slightly different perspective - switched charge operation

in addition, the test circuit has been used to look at the effect of including other loads, such as motors, in series with the output capacitor

it appears that the classical electrodynamic equations for charge (and therefore energy) do not hold true when pulses of energy are switched from capacitor to capacitor via an inductor

oscilloscope measurements at the resistive load (recorded digitally & processed by Excel spreadsheet) show that the circuit is operating with an efficiency of approx 140-150% at the load, eg input from C1: 1.43mJoules; output on 10ohm load: 2.09mJ

these results are over and above the usual losses which occur: vibration, noise & heat from coil, heat from wiring & switch components, power supplied to opto-isolator outputs & CMOS switching gates, etc

i think these results, and all the work involved in achieving them, help put the good Capn's magnanimous "gift to the free energy movement!" (referring to the very same phenomenon, half a year later) in perspective 

all the best
sandy
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   ...bringing you measured Overunity results since May '08