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OU/COP>1 switched cap PS cct like Tesla's 'charge siphoning'

Started by nul-points, April 04, 2008, 11:49:23 PM

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Grumpy

Quote from: allcanadian on December 25, 2008, 08:50:57 PM
@poynt99I think it should be clarified that the capacitor 50% rule only applies in one circumstance, this does not mean it applies in every circumstance-----there is a very big difference. For instance using an large self-inductance coil and a switch I can charge a capacitor to 400v from a 12v source battery in one single pulse, now how can this 50% rule apply when I have charged the capacitor 388v above the source voltage?. Now what do you think the system efficiency is when you consider the fact that 376v on the capacitor can be returned back to the source? Your rules only apply if you keep doing the same thing over and over, thankfully many here no longer subscribe to that kind of mentality---- we do things a little different ;D.

is more "energy" delivered to the capacitor?
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AbbaRue

I mentioned the Tesla Switch on this thread because the first few pages mentioned it.
On page 2 the title was:   Re: OU/COP>1 switched cap PS cct like half 'Tesla Switch' 
Sorry I didn't mean to get anyone off topic, I guess it evolved past the Tesla Switch concept.


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allcanadian

@Grumpy
Quoteis more "energy" delivered to the capacitor?
If E=CVsquared then yes more energy is "transfered" to the capacitor---and more energy is conserved within the system by utilizing a minimum of components. The faster the voltage is stepped up the faster losses can be reduced, everyone seems to want free energy ----I just want to conserve the energy I have first and then I will worry about the "free stuff"  ;D.
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nul-points

Quote from: Grumpy on December 25, 2008, 08:52:14 PM
Sandy, how does the construction of a capacitor determine this?

if you construct it with a dielectric which can support ion flow, not just electron polarisation
  eg. water in its liquid phase can exhibit both these properties - in its solid phase the ion flow reduces significantly


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Grumpy

Quote from: nul-points on December 26, 2008, 07:48:56 AM
if you construct it with a dielectric which can support ion flow, not just electron polarisation
  eg. water in its liquid phase can exhibit both these properties - in its solid phase the ion flow reduces significantly


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pretty sure it can't work that way, but good luck with that
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