Roll on the 20th June

[oak]

Good point.  It could be simply a narrow rod, as in the solenoid example, which moves a short distance to shift the weight.

[hartiberlin]

If you analyse all basics and formulars for a working gravity wheel with the external help of electromagnets and permanent magnets, the only thing you have to achieve is :
Lift a weight HIGHER from a charged capacitor than
the stored cap energy predicts.
So as E= 0.5 x C x V^2 = m x g x h  if we now rewrite this to:
h= m x g /  0.5 x C x V^2
So take a big cap, charge it up to maybe 12 or more Volts and then do a construction with coils and magnets to lift it higher than the above calculation predicts.
If you get it higher you can build a selfrunning gravity wheel, if not you will fail.
It is really the basics, so do this test first , before you build any complicated wheel device...
Regards, Stefan.

[The Eskimo Quinn]

my money is on the oak man ebing the first to succeed in his own right, variations are what make a good inventor, as for smokey, he is just on the site to stop people, as noted on the site no engineer has built and failed the accelerator,as for not being on the site, i do actually have a life, and during that time was actually building as i was told as usual the impossible, a 25 foot moblie home from the chasis up in 6 weeks for a deadline, no tools to start no preordered materials in fact had no idea i was even going to be doing it, all of my proffesional cabinetmaker and builder mates said it could barely be done in a factory fully equiped in that time, but i assure you i was on the road and kicking back on the chosen day (well one day later due to weather) blowin smoke just likes to rattle cages and put doubt in peoples minds. No true believer in overunity, (and that is this site last time i looked, )will quote newtons laws and calulations at the same time saying they can't be beaten, if you believe that why would you be here other than to keep it from happening???


Anyway, hi guys, well done on the theory,as i said before you are so close, the oak is the closest, because he didn't think about the math, simply about what he knew to be true physics. Newton was flogged by the wright brothers many years ago, but we simply accept that there are physics that will work together, the plane was simply wing shape, forcing air over one side faster than the other.

But you all still miss one basic component both in the physics and the math, so you need to keep going back to why satlellites don't fall, and no it is not because they are floating in space, they are too close to the earths gravity. gee wonder what Mr newton would make of that???

well i have work to do. in the mean time i want you to try an work out how a similar wheel and there is one (too hard for the home builder to get it out on mass) that is purly mechanical, you will know you are close if you do not have any proximatey to any of the older wheels from history yet you feel it will work, a good start point is the giant wheel in europe with the bottle springs, work out his simple fault and you will have the answer. he really did get it right he just doesn't know it yet, one tiny mistake.

Have fun

[hartiberlin]

An example to the above formular:
If you have an iron weight of 1 kg and a 1 Farad cap charged to 12 Volts, then you must be able to lift the 1 kg iron weight higher than 0.13625 meters.
So if you can lift it already 20 cm with this cap charge you will be able to build a working gravity wheel.

[hartiberlin]

Archer, if we take a pinball machine and pull the plunger back to the end, so the steel ball will go up a 45 degrees ramp...
Do you say, that if we put the pinball machine 90 degrees and then pull the plunger and let it hit the steel ball, that if will fly to a lower height ?
As we put into the steel ball the same kick energy from the plunger it should go in either case the same height....