Roll on the 20th June

[fletcher]

Everything is following to script - btw, what professor or scientist will want to make the trip if he has first read this pugnacious thread & sees the charactor he would be dealing with - not exactly a neutral unbiased atmosphere to prove or disprove any claim - but no mind, on the 20th the guys building [who are honest & with intergrity] will report in anyway, because that was always their intent - to validate or not certain claims - if the result is, well, a no result, then quinn will have let his side down by not providing the intellectual goods to enable them to produce even one of '6 ways to sunday' to show OU - if the result is an independent demonstration of at least one device able to validate quinn then I'm sure they will report that too - these people are more reasonable & likely to answer questions intelligently & forthrightly with specs & diagrams so there is no childish 'quinnfusion' & misdirection.

Then the air is likely to be electric with either high praise of deep sarcasm & scorn, both equally earned by quinn depending on his teams results.

[onesnzeros]

As you can see a genuine man of sciece would be all over the challenge as his vindication, but no acceptance just more dribble, a man of science would be over the moon, after all we get to see the fall of the Mighty Quinn once and for all, but no, no such true newtonians hoping for victory, only oil men who know the real truth, and that real truth will destroy them for all time, free energy is already here, i Have one guy paying thousand to an achitect for a full set of engineering plans from the fulcrum. Anyone who knows basic physics knows that if the lift reaaly does work, then the fall alone can power any type of device for the lift, with plenty to spare.

I don't need newtonians to believe me anymore, i want one of their own to destory my claim, come on show us your balls, and take on the Mighty Quinn. But if you lose, all mankind will know who is king, and it will be Newton or The Quinn.

In turn if power is knowledge, then with the greatest knowldge of all time, then you know where that puts Mr bush don't you?

Come on, come and crush me, I am waiting, if it does not work then everything and all machine are a lie. that will be my concession, so bring it on. let the world see the greatest battle ever fought and see the power of one man against the world itself.


chet just keep re posting the challenge if the diatribes of the oil people continue.

I am sure purepower will not be seen again after the test, afterall, if your lifes blood runs because you belive a lie, what of your life when there is no math left to use that you can trust?

Archer, I am an engineer with 22 experience years designing machines, I have drafted much of my work in Autocad for 12 years. I will do your drawings for free! Post the specs and 'accurate' information and I will produce a detailed engineering drawing of your lever thingy. And before I send it to you and the rest of the world I will show you where you have made your mistakes and why it will NEVER work the way you claim. I won't be the first in this group to do so, there members here that are both intellegent and educated in the sciences that can see through your delusions.

onesnzeros

Cheers Archer

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exxcomm0n,

Regarding my comments in this specific thread, yes.. I'm a bit of a broken record. But elsewhere, not necessarily.

I admit I haven't bothered to search your other posts. I just have the tone of this one, which rings of cynical amusement.

I will freely admit that I don't really have any novel concepts for the production of Free Energy - a fact which shouldn't surprise either side of the skeptic / believer fence.. but of course, each camp has their own basis for a lack of surprise.

Not even a bad one?
How about building something to verify a claim?
Last time I looked a TPU was as outlandish as a gravity wheel, presented in much the same way (without foul language), but people seem to be having a whee of a time with it and POSTING THEIR FINDINGS because they were curious.

I thought you were tailing my posts? You should know that of all that I've written, invective is but a small portion - depending on which definition of 'invective' you're operating under.
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Not tailing.
Those were questions, denoted by the squiggly thing at the end.

and the def is Merriam Websters own.


Main Entry:
    1in?vec?tive Listen to the pronunciation of 1invective
Pronunciation:
    \in-ˈvek-tiv\
Function:
    adjective
Etymology:
    Middle English invectif, from Middle French, from Latin invectivus, from invectus, past participle of invehere
Date:
    15th century

: of, relating to, or characterized by insult or abuse

Relating to and characterized by insult, but skirting the edge of insult. True, it does have a bit more vitrol than I was shooting for, but i got a double word score out of it in scrabble and it appeared in "Improve your word power" and I thought it fitting.

If you want proof, use Google, Wikipedia or crack open a textbook. And when someone comes along making extraordinary claims that defy accepted science, the burden of proof is on themselves - not their skeptics. The reason for this, is that the accepted science has already withstood the immense rigors of skepticism, and has prevailed - so when a challenge is made, it's the challenger's turn to face the same. Fair is fair, right?

Science doesn't have a handle. You do.
Science didn't actively post to my knowledge.
Science has historically fought tooth and nail to preserve the law of the day when challenged by something else.

Yeah.....I'm trying to prove it. I'm playing with my toy, which seems to be a source of amusement for everyone, not just me.

Except i have the guts to post and NOT have a working device. In fact, I joke about it in the vid ("Ain't nebber happ'nin").

I did what I asked of others, I only ask that you do the same.
I'm an Archurian. I don't readem boox dat wel.

And even if I could, they would be full of old science. I want the new and exotic.

Not quite sure that I understand - are you suggesting that the problem with Archer's devices is me? The problems with Archer's ideas are threefold:

1) They defy accepted rules of physics, which have been tested and shown valid countless times over many centuries.

2) They are based on a new set of 'rules', each of which are either rife with misunderstanding or a pure, bald-faced fabrication. In either case, they are demonstrably false.

3) Archer has neglected to offer any objective proof for even one of his wild, anti-Newtonian assertions.

In short, we really have nothing to work with other than the wishful words of a guy in Australia with a predilection for insults and foul language. 'Archer says' doesn't cut the mustard.

I hope that answers your questions.

-L

1.) All new discoveries or theories usually do.

2.) DEMONSTRABLY! Aces!!!!! So, you CAN build, eh?

3.) True. Nothing concrete. But what do you call the photos his site did have? It was not a working device, but it showed an AWFUL amount of time and effort.

I've said it before and I'll say it some more, I respect a man that has something to show me rather than just talk about something in reference to some subjects.

'Cuz Im dum.

I asked YOU to prove it, not science.
Is this beyond your ken?
If it's a waste of your time to build, then what do you describe your posts as? They take time too, correct?

Really, even just a toy.

[MrKai]

I admit I haven't bothered to search your other posts. I just have the tone of this one, which rings of cynical amusement.

Not even a bad one?
How about building something to verify a claim?
Last time I looked a TPU was as outlandish as a gravity wheel, presented in much the same way (without foul language), but people seem to be having a whee of a time with it and POSTING THEIR FINDINGS because they were curious.

Allow me to jump in:

eXX:

If I load a revolver with live ammo, do *need to put the gun to my head and pull the trigger* to be able to determine that the result will be self-inflicted High Velocity Lead Poisoning?

Do you realize that your whole "if it doesn't work, then build it and PROVE IT" is EXACTLY like the above example to these people?

I mean...do you? ALL EVIDENCE POINTS TO THIS THING being a total dud. Remember, for the umpteenth time, Archer brought out the Big Dogs by putting up MATH that does not actually work.

NO ONE told him to do this. Not One Person. And when our intrepid leader here @ overunity had at knocking up the plans with Computer-Fu, even he was like "Yeeeeeaaaaaahhhhh, ummmmm, from what you just said there, there is NO WAY this will work like you said...can we get some clarification?"

Your whole notion that "unless you build it to prove it doesn't work" is like some schoolyard "Yo' Momma" snaps or something.

Or do you REALLY NEED TO SHOOT YOURSELF IN THE FACE to "know" that the gun will fire?!?!

[Bulbz]

i can see the oil men will keep posting long scipts to remove the challenge so people won't see they are running now so i will post it on the webpage also. and direct them to this thread, I hope harti isnt clos to exceed his maximum posts again.

the page is here

http://www.surphzup.com/gpage.html

Yes Archer, you're right... Oil men and Newton lovers will always give long, boring, and confusing posts. Nature and simplicity live in perfect harmony to keep the stars and planets in orbit.

And if I remember correctly... Stars and planets have magnetic fields that are always cutting though each others magnetic fields, just like a dynamo. This should prove that there is free energy to be harnessed and Nature seems to produce frequency pulses,. A pendulum is also at one with Nature, so I cannot see any reason why this cannot be utilised also.

I also think that there are a lot of gaps in Newtonian physics.

BTW... I digg the statement that you gave on your page that you provided that link to.
"Paedophile check I want fucking Newtonian checks bought into schools. Next time you talk to one just say yooouuuu diiickheads." 

Godspeed Archer. Go for it dude. 


[EDIT} I forgot to mention... If the magnetic fields of the planets and stars are cutting through each other, why are we not slowing down and falling into the sun right now. There has to be a lot of free energy comming from somwhere. [/EDIT]