Roll on the 20th June

[tekylife]

@ purepower

I like the big plan idea, I don't know if it really fits the Archer persona. Maybe some old FE wolves convinced him to press hard while he had all the believers by the balls .
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To his defense :
Maybe he is set to buy the shed on his 40h/week wage. He only needs it when the wheel is ready so that he could show there are no tricks ( empty garage )
I think it will be the first model , in the sense that it uses only permanent magnet . After all he claims the first device used an electromagnet, and if I remember well we made him go to permanent magnet ( to avoid any suspicious cables )
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I find it strange that no numbers are released yet though. One could argue that he is setup to collect the maximum amount possible vs just what is needed for his time building and the raw materials. We'll know first hand if an independent accountant ever get a hold of paypal account summary. I hope that once he has enough money to start ( which he probably already do ) he produces something.

I like BATMAN's plan , it is exactly the Shock and Awe action I was referring to earlier in the thread. Can't wait for tomorrow

[exxcomm0n]

Ya, it makes much more sense once you understand what it is and what its for. Ill let Batman tell everyone about it, I dont want to spoil his fun...


AQ changed up his site a bit, and this is what it at the very end of the "Public Release Page"

He needs money to get the "first one" off the ground? Hmm, another accidental confession that the device has never been built before? Makes you wonder...

And what is this "come on people" business? Havent we been saying "come on Archer, produce it already" for quite some time? Now its on us to get it going?

I could be wrong (and hope I am), but what if this was his tactic all along? It would certainly be a brilliant plan. Get a couple thousand people following and encouraging before you start asking for money, then run out of money fooling around with a giant lever, promising everyone itll come as long as he gets your dough. Even if he averages just $20 from everyone (and Im betting its much higher), he's still making about $40,000!!!

He started off different, but ended just like ever other FE scam. Though he says the spending will be public knowledge, he also says the first thing he's going to buy is a shed. I wish I had a bunch of people wanting to pay for my home improvements. I was duped into believing (for a little while), but my money is staying right where its at...

-PurePower

Will you please quote the entire portion?

"So come on people lets get this first one off the ground. This will save more lives around the world and make better living standards for pensioners and those who struggle with everyday costs, the lack of smog is simply a bonus. Some will go to bed and say today I did the right thing, some will say that if oil does make 150 to 200 a barrel at least the machines will be close at hand not down the track.

If you don't understand or even believe it will work, then you understand what faith truly is, whether it be in God or just mankind's ability to overcome the odds. Knowing is not faith. If you are religious what do you think is better, money on a plate that has just as much chance of being a new stained glass window as anything else? or a money that has only one purpose. Me? I would rather give money to a guy digging holes in the desert for water for his people even though you may not believe he will find it, than a window decoration.

If you are not religious the even common sense tells you one thing, if there is only wages clearly less than the person is able to earn with an account for all of the money, why would he be wasting his time? why would he have spent so much of his own money? why would he have lost all the wages time on it so far? For what purpose? so million of people could laugh at him? not likely.

I am asking you have faith that I have done this before and can reproduce it again. I will start this on Monday with the wages money or not as there is enough for parts, and I will have faith in my fellow man to make sure I have not continued for their benefit at my expense. (I'll handle the missus)

So you have a start thanks to 30 people out of 6 billion, of those who contribute to this before the first full running video I will ask for permission to publish your names afterwards without amounts beside them. This is no longer "I" (for the first time in my life) but "we" who will change the world for the better.

I think there is enough said until Monday 30th of June.

I understand you have an ax to grind, but does doing this type of stuff make you any better than your opinion of him?

Seems like it's no longer a 1 man show in Wheeltown.

I'll let him post exxcomm0n for the name my donation, it's only money.
If he uses any of my ideas, I want to be included in conception credits.

Man, the best lie is 1/2 a truth, and you can't post "hot off the presses" web pages sometimes with out it looking like you're doing that.

If you go to the root of the video I posted for Rusty, you'll see that I can put anything on there I want BUT I have to reload the web server service to have it published.

Editing a page takes time and certain processes.

Link is above in the quote, check it out.

[tekylife]

@ exxcomm0n

At some point there was only the "come on" sentence at the bottom of the page. The whole paragraph you're quoting came later on.

Having myself just refreshed , he says there are 30 donations, and it seems it's enough for him to start. goood!

Too bad it might be too late to win the prize. Go BATMAN! GO!

[exxcomm0n]

@ exxcomm0n

At some point there was only the "come on" sentence at the bottom of the page. The whole paragraph you're quoting came later on.

Having myself just refreshed , he says there are 30 donations, and it seems it's enough for him to start. goood!

Too bad it might be too late to win the prize. Go BATMAN! GO!

@ teky

That's the deal man. It could have had a shelf-life of a couple hours.

I saw it too. But if following his site has taught us anything about it, it's that the content changes sometimes on the hour.

Now the whole batman thing is cool and all, but from what we know of his device (even someone in the inner circle is not quite sure how it works) it has just as much credence as Archers (actually, Archers has more at the moment since we've been debating on it's design for over 2 months).

If Batman can save the day, I'm all for it!

But I like for an idea to come with the finished package.

[sm0ky2]

Hi Graham,
  Agreed, the kick out is enough to get past the attraction, but the attraction is there.

edit: just read your other post.
    the setup was modified to do away with the cart the roller mag was placed on the end of a pendulum that was running on a bearing and very free moving

Graham is right, its the field from the corner of the gates wrapping back around, meaning your set-up is not perfectly corect, as i tried to state earlier....

Also, using the "common-ball" method like you have here, changes the entire gate mechanics. you need to have each gate its own triangle, then stick them together ball-to-ball. common-ball works better around curves, but for a straight line, i wouldn't reccomend it.

(p.s. i have about $100 worth of geomags here, was playing with these gates for months since Graham released it)