Roll on the 20th June

[sm0ky2]

gravity accelerates an object at a certain rate, at our distance from the earth.

aprox. 9.8 m/s^2
(seconds squared?) - yes
This means that every second an object is falling, it moves another 9.8m/s faster

Well, a magnetic field does the same thing.
we generally do not observe this effect, because the time is too short and distances too small.
but if we shorten the increments between observations, and measure the acceleration over very short distances
we can see that both forces behave in a similar manner.

when a balance is achieved, meaning the force placed on an object by a repelling magnetic field
equals the force placed on the object by the gravitational field
-- the object can remain in the air without any extra energy input from the magnetic or the gravitational fields.
both forces are accelerating the object equally.
Magneto-Gravitic Balance


the distance from the magnetic field where this balance occurs varies with the mass of the object and the strength of the magnetic fields.
When this balance-distance (vertically) is measured, the ratio d/m is known as the Flux to Mass Ratio. [meters/kg]
Which simply means how much mass can be lifted a given distance with the magnet-pair.
The exact value of this ratio will vary from magnet to magnet, as they are all slightly different.

for this device to function, the ratios must be within a close precision to each other.
one may have to test each magnet-pair, and select ones that are similar values of the ratio.
this includes each rod magnet as one half of the pairs,
and every magnet in the (lower) outer array as the other half of the pairs.
Also, the distance must be sufficient to off-set the mass of the wheel.

When this is accomplished,
the rod that is in the magnetic field will experience a magneto-gravitic balance point at the raised position.
and will travel to there as the wheel spins the rod through the outer array.
       

[Thaelin]

Wow, long time and no more posts. Anyone try to move each weight separately?  This seems to me it is in balance yet.  Maybe seven instead of eight? Maybe 15 instead of 16? Where is The Quinn now a days?

[sm0ky2]

Wow, long time and no more posts. Anyone try to move each weight separately?  This seems to me it is in balance yet.  Maybe seven instead of eight? Maybe 15 instead of 16? Where is The Quinn now a days?

This system can be made to "work", temporarily, when the proper conditions are met. However, once those conditions change, the system fails.
Magnetic strength, local gravitation variation, and even temperature are among those to torment the extremely  low tolerances of this device.


As for Mr. Quinn, not many have heard from him since he got into politics.....
Some rumored that he had passed, though this has not been (wholly) confirmed.

[ramset]

I do have an Old contact for him [more recent than  this threads start date ]

will send a note and report back one way or the other.

Chet

[Thaelin]

Hi Smoky and Ramset:
   I did send him a few posts but no answers at all.  He is the one who sent me on this quest some 10 years ago and I have not been able to shake it since. Big grins there. Not that I wanted to.

    I did make a 4 foot wheel with two sets of weights and used a pair of window motors to shift them. The damn thing did in fact turn good and about 80 rpm with one hell of a lot of torque. The concept was sound and that is what has kept me beating on it since. It was the foul treatment that he got that made me go underground on it. I am trying out a new switching scheme now that seems to have great promise. All tests so far have been totally positive. Even with no weights added, it switches under its own weight. Has been one hell of a fun ride if nothing else. As I call it, the thrill of the chase. I would have had long boring nights if not for this.

   I keep thinking that all the ytube vids kept using the same idea. Shift both weights at the same time. That creates a balance factor and failure. They have to be done single for this thing to ever be an unbalanced wheel. I may well be wrong there too. Who knows. But I will never know if I sure as hell don't do it.

   And by the way, I am not using magnetics at all. Its totally mechanical in nature. Stay tuned. And now we will see just how many will slither out of the woodwork to start on me as they did AQ.  His heart was in the right place, for the working stiff and I will always be in his debt. If I am right and it goes, I damn sure want him to have the credit for it. Colin Powell said and I quote, "There is no end to the good that can be done if you do not care who gets the credit" and I am with that. But AQ started this some ten years ago and said my piece must be given free with the rest. I agree.

thay