Roll on the 20th June

[helmut]

Watch him get murdered on June 19th.

He seems like the crazy type that would commit suicide on June 19th just to spite us all.

@John Galt
What is your intension?
Will you make us believe,that archer is planing to do a suicide at the 19th of June?
@everyone else
Why should he do so?
Everything importand he left with us.

Just assume,the wheel fails in a way,such as ,that with the Size of the testwheel, it will not be possible to squeeze out more than 200Joule. What is wrong with that? No problem.Not at all.

Nobody is forced to invest Money ,to do his own experiments.
This Topic is at the Moment as good ,or bad,as the others.
Shure ,some will do a replication,because they do it at their fun.
And as shure as they do,they will share their experience with the group.
So there is absolutely no need for him to feel depressed.

But i expect at the end results,that are similar to his forecast.

You just came here ,set 3 posts and grap a clue from  April 22, 2008, 11:31:45 PM
So we wait the day to come and care for his safety.

helmut

[The Eskimo Quinn]

very dissapointed straight back to the same old rubbish, way too many people on this thread trying to disprove theories. so i will do this in crayon for the new folk, and those who have not lsitened to a word. this is the blonde house wife version.

please take two ring magnets, do you have them...........................yes

please take one stick, do you have it ............................................yes

place stick in piece of foam, done....................................................yes

place one magnet on stcik then  other, you will know they are facing each other coz that sticky together thing won't happen, done that...............................................yes

now you have one of two parts of your power source,  see it floating ooh aaah energy being released, understand?...................................................................................yes

now how much do magnets cost, lots?............................................um, no they cost a few cents each to make.

so that means it can't be a lot of enegy and cost to make them right??...........spose not

so now tilt the magnet pole on its side at abot 45 degrees, are they still apart??   yep, further i think

further???.........................................................................................yep, mus be that gravity thingy


ok now i want you to get a popsicle stick and tape to the top magnet standing straight up
can you do that???........................................................................... um, don't have any posicles

ok a pencil will do, got one of those??  ................................................um yep

ok now put your finger half way along the stick above the magnet, done that? yep now that is the middle of your firing rod ok?? .............................................................um yep

ok now that means that without the magnet on the bottom where would the top magnet with your pencil be sitting???..........................................................................um on the foam?

good girl.

so now imagine your foam is the outside of the wheel and halfway up the pencil is the middle of you wheel if you push the pencil and magnet back down to about half of that floating bit ok?

...um ok, oh but iot wont stay there

really, must be the falling weight versus your total weight??!!                     um i dont have a falling weight or total weight?? it just wont stay down there.

really, perhaps your kenetic energy balance is out? .......................ummm?? no i went for a run yesterday.

oh i see, gee no wheel at all, no falling weights versus newtonian bullshit and the arm wont stay down on the lift side, gee??? that is a problem???

now do you need some extra help to lift that up like that? some power of some sort???.........nope

oh that is puzzeling coz if it falls down one side surly we need some sort of power to lift it back up again???hhhmmm, maybe momentum, thats it fall equals x power to momentum, that should do it.

...................................................nope, it's not turning on a wheel or swinging so it cant be that

gee??? i dunno, so if it "was on a wheel do you think that would help??   umm only the falling down bit


why only the falling down bit?.................................coz that mummystum thing i, don't need it um it does it anyway.

just like in your hand???....................................................yep.

so what you are saying is, it doesent matter if the weight falling is less than the momentum weight rising, coz it will lift anyway???.................................................. sure, why wouldn't it??? it'll still be a magnet won't it?? just like this won't it???

sure it will sweety, .............................my arm is tired can i put it down now??

sure you can.......................................hey how long you think that will stay there floating like that?

about 20 years......................wow thats pretty good energy for a couple of cents isnt it.

you have now idea darlin.


as is seems do most of you lot. ok, power from generators is torque, not rotation or speed. thought we had covered that, none the less to get the newtonians off this thread let us say yes by jove you are right, hear hear, well done piss off.

and why can we say that ladies? because it never did matter on that point if there were or not, because ven the dumb blonde knows, it will lift and shift the weight no matter what the weight to wheel ratio is lost to momentum or any of that. the little ringy things will always float and as such the rods can never sit on the left side of the wheel.

you will note there is no real firing distance hance the lack of need ofr any real power, we only ever needed to shift the weight.

and foir those who keep saying i hope it works, i hope they invent a plane soon too, maybe a car, bin there done that.

Downloading instructions to site tonight, and full specs on the 20th machine or not.

what i want to see is any one of these newtonians keep the rod equally balanced or on the left, it "can't" be done, so it can't not work. ther will always be the float no matter what the momentum is, that only alters the speed of the wheel that will keep trying to find balance.

show me a ring magnet due on a pole with 5 times the weight of one sitting on the top and still not working.

there is no creation of energy, simply manipulation of stored energy and gravity, if you are looking for your losses on rise, don't bother, the machine does not even need general momentum from the fall with double the losses as soon as it hit 7.

so you can take your equations and double your calculated losses and i still win.

very unimpressed.

[zerotensor]

I fear no one will be helping me with this problem (see picture) any time soon.
...

Hey, D.J.

Well, there has been some mention of bicycles...
That ought to help with the whole "aging" thing too 

...
Unfortunately we live in a world full of friction and decay.  True story: today I saw my grandmother's hands and they looked old and frail, the skin was thin and wrinkled.  Then I looked at my 2 yr olds hands which are young and pink and healthy.  I thought, why can't the aging process just take longer?   But even longer would be too fast.  The problem is that we live in a world that is dying and decaying.  No one and no thing lives forever.  A good pendulum with a heavy weight will go for a very long time, but as soon as you try to harness that energy you introduce friction which will slow it in opposite proportion to the amount of energy you are harnessing.

Look on the bright side:  Your 2 yr old came into the world fresh and pink, born of the same genetic material as your grandma.  Nature does renew itself.  The planets and galaxies keep spinning round and round, with no sign of slowing down anytime soon.  Looking for free energy?  Look at the universe!  heckuvalot of energy in our corner of the cosmos, and who had to pay for it? Nobody!

Sure, things wear out and decay.  But it seems that there is always something there to take over and keep the cycle going.  Heck, even our own sun was recycled from the remnants of dead stars, (If you accept the prevailing stellar theory).

[zerotensor]

very dissapointed straight back to the same old rubbish, way too many people on this thread trying to disprove theories. so i will do this in crayon for the new folk, and those who have not lsitened to a word. this is the blonde house wife version.
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I, for one, prefer the rocket-science version, thank you very much.

show me a ring magnet due on a pole with 5 times the weight of one sitting on the top and still not working.

I would call this a "spring".

there is no creation of energy, simply manipulation of stored energy and gravity, if you are looking for your losses on rise, don't bother, the machine does not even need general momentum from the fall with double the losses as soon as it hit 7.

so you can take your equations and double your calculated losses and i still win.

very unimpressed.

I hope that the attitude you display can be backed-up with an open,  working prototype that generates constant, useful energy.  Now THAT would be impressive.

I'm still pulling for you, Archer.  Forget the haters and deniers -- If you or anyone here can demonstrate that your machine works as advertised, you can let people discuss all day about HOW and WHY it works, while you bask in the glory of your achievement, and in the unambiguous, demonstrated fact that it WORKS.

If it doesn't, no harm done.  That's how we learn.  I will keep an open mind.

Are you really so surprised that people would doubt your claim??  So far, we only have your word that it works, and there have been many, many claims similar to yours that did not turn out to be true.  It goes with the territory.

I'm glad you chose to open-source this project.  Disclosure is the best strategy with such a potentially paradigm-shifting technology, and there are some really talented builders here who would love to help verify your claim.  Once the cat is out of the bag, we can't be stopped.

[capthook]

Attached below is a drawing of my broad take on a/the design.

I have considered, for years, the way to implement the "floating" magnet idea.
This is an interesting, simple approach that offers potential.

The question becomes one of engineering.

1) Weight/size of wheel
2) strength/size of tube magnets
3) strength, size and airgap of perm drive mag
4) strength and airgap of electromag
5) electromag specs: coil size, wire size, # of turns, core size/material, pulse input energy required
6) generator design specs

Without specific details on these, and other parameters, one could spend months/years (decades )
experimenting with variations before finding the proper balance..
And changing RPM's would require variable input to electromag to overcome the changing centrifugal force. (this could be overcome by designing for large energy input @ max RMP sacrificing efficiency) And the perm mag can't be so strong as to "lock up" the wheel.

And there needs to be a way to keep the outside tube magnet from being pulled outwards by centrifugal force .....yet still do so when desired...(by the perm mag)  This aspect is what has had me stumped.  (a spring with perfect required parameters between the two perhaps?  Difficult... or a 'control gate' of some kind...)

Archer - providing details (when you do so) of these types  would greatly increase the odds of replicating the device.

You mentioned torque, not speed is the requirement.  However, the frequency of the changing magnet field is what produces the power.
The RPM's would have to be decent to begin with, else a very large gear ratio would be required.  Also, I'm still of the notion that a larger weight transfer is required to produce the necessary torque.

CH