Roll on the 20th June

[ramset]

one its a machine that makes electricity   using the concepts out lined in this thread    with the objective being  to change the way we get energy   more like ill do that myself thankyou   would you like one ?one   OH and its not that new stuff contete its the stuff the Romans made concrete very easy to cast [a lot less heat etc.etc.]    Chet

[redriderno22]

hello all

one thing i would like to say

stop talking about it

and build it

archer has not left any details out

if your handy, you could build one in a couple of hours.

If the only thing keeping you from trying to build one of these is all that say its not possible, im sorry for you.

if you would like to know what i used, here it is

round pine table top

hard drive motor

sch 40 PVC pipe 1"

pipe straps

CPVC pipe, for rod

RING neo mags, I know he said disc mags but it was what i had

and pennys for weight

i found it easy to use them to find the perfect weight at the end of the rod

once you find the right weight to break the magnetic wall on the top, the rest is easy

to keep it simple i only used one tube/rod just to see if it would work

and it honestly took me a while to figure out that the weight had to be beyond the mags

and hot glue and duct tape are not the best things to use

It only went around four times before the mags let loose and and stopped

and no it did not turn very fast at all

and its only about 1/3 the size of "dustys"

this weekend im going to put it back together and get some pics and try to do a video for all of you

but dont wait, start building now.

Thanks again archer.

[sm0ky2]

magnets dont "contain" any energy. The energy that creates the magnetic field is already present in EVERY atom that exists. The Electron. [under the right circumstances it can be removed from the atom, but it returns naturally if allowed] To make this energy form into a useful force-field - we simply have to allign the atoms so that their electrons obrit parallely. Thus stacking their fields into a cummulative field emanating from the mass.  This is essentially the same magnetic field that surrounds a single atom, we put(temporarily)  energy into the material in order to allign the fields.
The energy that was used to magnetize the material was gone a fraction of a second after the magnet was removed from the effective field.

the magnetic field we experience (the field retained by the magnetized material) is a result of the allignment of the cumulative electron orbits within the material. it takes energy to re-allign the electron orbit, but once done, the electron-fields hold one another in allignment within the given mass.  and each field adds to the cummulative field, making it stronger.  If you had 3 units of magnetic material, all polarized to the same intensity, and combine them  (difficult to do without curry-magnetic-decay) the cummulative field will be 3x the strength. 

its a CONSTANT field - much like gravity.  and in fact, caused by the very same kind of interaction as gravity.
--- that being the cummulative field-effect of a multitude of atoms occupying a small space.

it does decrease over time - through a process often called "degaussing". - external influences can cause this to happen more quickly, but any magnetic source will slowly degauss starting at the edges, due to the diference in magnetic intensity between the magnet and its surroundings.  in other words - theres nothing to hold those outer electrons on their path,. and they can become disorganized - thus allowing the next atom in to break out of allignment, ect..

NO - you cannot "extract" energy out of a magnet like a battery

YES - in theory you can create energy by the degaussing of a small magnetic source, through induction via the changing magnetic field.  - NO - this does not in any way equate to the energy required to magnetize the material.

YES - it is possible to utilize changing magnetic fields to create energy.

However - energy must be placed into the system to create a change in the magnetic fields

Which energy value is greater than the other? - this depends on the invididual magnetic interaction(s).
It IS possible for more than one magnetic system to interact in such a way that the combined system accelerates infinitely. This creates an infinite ammount of "work", and "energy".  But it in no way "extracts" it from the magnets themselves. and (with the exception of eddy-current demagnetization) the magnets retain their field regardless of the "work" performed by the system(s).

A Magnet sitting there, is just a field. No work. No Energy.
Magnets working together is an entirely diferent field of research.

You cant use one reference to refute the other. they do not equate.

[sevich]

Hiall

Intermission!

I think its highly possible Archer (The Eskimo Quinn)  MAY have a disinformation goal. To disrupt or paralyze public debate by misleading people and by discrediting valid information sources. Also beware of word play. It can be a primary disinformation tactic and highly effective with headlines.

just a small caution   

[sm0ky2]

Hiall

Intermission!

I think its highly possible Archer (The Eskimo Quinn)  MAY have a disinformation goal. To disrupt or paralyze public debate by misleading people and by discrediting valid information sources. Also beware of word play. It can be a primary disinformation tactic and highly effective with headlines.

just a small caution   

This is not his intention at all. I believe he is geniunely attempting to relieve the world from its clutches in the grasp of the ever-inflating energy market.