FREE ENERGY USING MAGNETS

[gyulasun]

Just an idea in the above drawing,uses both sides of coil and mags.
your comments gentelmen,(and ladies) any good?
happy hunting.
peter

Hi Peter,

Case 1: no ring magnets on your rotor

This setup in principle is similar to Peter Lindemann's rotary attraction motor and he says it can be made with a COP of higher than one (by making the air gap extremely small between the rotor and stator in a machine shop and also capturing the flyback pulse from the electromagnet), see this link:
http://www.free-energy.ws/electric-motor-secrets/attraction-motor.html

Case 2: ring magnets in your rotor

I cannot read your text in the lower right corner of your drawing, after 'USE AS PULSE MOTOR.....

So what I can see in this setup is that the iron arms will attract to the stator cores and I assume you will give a repel pulse to electromagnet for kicking the iron arms further on to the next attraction etc.
This may also be a COP>1 but you have to build it to make sure

Maybe you wish to write some more thoughts of this setup how you think, maybe I am missing something?

Gyula

[petersone]

Hi Gyula
I think you understand it ok,it was just a simple way to use all poles,and also open and close the flux path.
Right corner is,use as pulse motor or E-Brown gen or both,or without mags attraction motor.I have not seen a setup where the mags are on the shaft,but I may be wrong!!
I have a simple one working that I am "playing" with.
I'm working with a basic trigger,reed switch,transistor and so on,but the transistor is about 3ohms when open,and ths coil is also 3ohms so I'm losing half my amps across the transistor,my question is,is that normal?
thanks for your interest.
happy hunting.
peter

[petersone]

Hi Gyula,again,forgot to say,when using it as a gen. when I short out the coil the revs go up and it daws less current,maybe just reducing the "bump"
happy hunting
peter

[gyulasun]

I'm working with a basic trigger,reed switch,transistor and so on,but the transistor is about 3ohms when open,and ths coil is also 3ohms so I'm losing half my amps across the transistor,my question is,is that normal?

Hi Peter,

Well, it obeys Ohm's Law     Question is what type of transistor you use? Is it bipolar or power MOSFET? 
Among the MOSFETs you can find types of well under 1 Ohm drain-source channel resistance, in the some tens milliOhm order.
Bipolar transistors has higher than this saturation resistances unless you use special switching types, but even then they may not beat MOSFETs in this respect.
Do you recover flyback pulse energy in your simple working 'prototype'?  If you do, then you may use MOSFETs with 80-100V drain voltage ratings (I suppose you use 12V battery or such supply) and such cheaper types as IRF520 IRF530 would be nice with their 0.27 or 0.16 Ohm channel-on resistance ( http://www.futurlec.com/TransMosIRF.shtml )
If you do nor recover flyback pulse you have to use higher than 100V switching devices, not to ruin them (flyback pulse may go up above 200V or higher).  Of course there are much better types than those older and cheaper ones.

rgds,  Gyula

[gyulasun]

Hi Gyula,again,forgot to say,when using it as a gen. when I short out the coil the revs go up and it daws less current,maybe just reducing the "bump"
happy hunting
peter

Well, I can only guess this: when you short out the coil the induced voltage hence current helps coil core get out from magnetic saturation or eddy current effects the ring magnets make in it so the drag effect may get eased? I am not sure 

see this on topic http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4047.msg97828.html#msg97828  I tend to agree with Nali2001 but Thane strongly disagrees Nali2001.... 

What do you think?  Maybe you could bypass a little your ring magnets 'from top to toe' by some parallel iron wires to reduce flux density towards the arms and see what happens?

rgds, Gyula