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HHO as the only fuel (Brown's Gas) creates Vaccum

Started by zenarrow, June 18, 2008, 02:33:47 PM

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Quote from: Jokker on June 19, 2008, 04:39:43 AM
U can find about water electrolysis at
http://www.hydrogen.asn.au/hydrogen-technical-calculations.htm

I calculated and u will get from 1 l of water about 0,5 l of liquid hydrogen.

arh my friend, this is not about hydrogen, it is about HHO also called Brown's gas.
It implodes when burnt in a sealed container like a piston. The design of the Internal Combustion Engine turned on it's head so to speak. To much explodes, the right amount, should give a manageable implosion vacuum.
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A YouTube Video about it... I did have another link to Dr Brown, but the sound was atrocious.

This explains the gas, and how it ignites and other details...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lABkJi94LJA&feature=related
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Quote from: zenarrow on June 19, 2008, 06:43:53 AM
arh my friend, this is not about hydrogen, it is about HHO also called Brown's gas.
It implodes when burnt in a sealed container like a piston. The design of the Internal Combustion Engine turned on it's head so to speak. To much explodes, the right amount, should give a manageable implosion vacuum.

I guess im wrong but...
It seems that electrolysis output is hydrogen and oxygen ( separated ) then u are pushing this mixture true water and u are getting another element ? No way Maybe trick is that the content balance changes so u can get more energy out of burning it.

Browns Gas Generators
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKCuI9IWfZ4&feature=related

I guess the trick is that u can use electrical energy in more effective way for heat. But yea u need some water also.
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zenarrow

Quote from: Jokker on June 19, 2008, 08:17:16 AM
I guess im wrong but...
It seems that electrolysis output is hydrogen and oxygen ( separated ) then u are pushing this mixture true water and u are getting another element ? No way Maybe trick is that the content balance changes so u can get more energy out of burning it.

Browns Gas Generators
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKCuI9IWfZ4&feature=related

I guess the trick is that u can use electrical energy in more effective way for heat. But yea u need some water also.

The Browns gas is hydrogen and oxygen, but not seperated into two parts.
The video I pointed to above in youtube, explains it better. It also points out this can melt a brick into a glass like structure, ignite tunstan, but can't boil water. It says the electricity going into the water to create the gas HHO is also part of the energy in it. So water does not have the same effect when trying to boil as it disipates the electrical factor of the gas in flame. (strange concept, but his words). Yet the metal is highly conductive and melts straight away. And then the flame on the skin, does not burn at first either. The surface of the things it melts or cuts have water condensation deposits on it.

He also points out (there are 3 videos in the group) that there are at least 3 ways of this gas forming. As monoatomic (one molecule HHO) or diatomic (two separated gases), and if it is left in the sun in a clear container, it goes back to diatomic. Diatomic pops louder as hydrogen is separate to the oxygen. Where as there is another version he speculates is ionized, and gives more electrical charge and energy when used. Though that is being experimented with others for running cars etc.

It's all a research potential here.

He says you can flame polish rough quartz, and make precious looking stones by heating them. This is using the flame blow torch type use.

An application on youtube is using it for deep diving, where as they used helium and you get the squeaky voice and become intoxicated like drunks. HHO seems to be good for it, as well as coming up quickly without the bends. It is really a facinating thing to know more about.

I have only been rekindled with the idea since I saw ZeroFossilFuels videos on making your own HHO as a fuel supplement. My ideas have been jumping around. It has been very exhilerating.
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sportcoupe

Alot of this topics discussion is over my head but I do know the workings of a standard pistion engine. Seems it has too many difficulties to overcome. Just food for though, has anyone tried to use a rotary engine instead? It has no pistons or cams to deal with. Timing is handled with port sizing. It is a very small displacement engine and very smooth operating.