HHO as the only fuel (Brown's Gas) creates Vaccum

[jikwan]

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this idea is blowing my mind
radical revolutionary even though its an old concept
keep on keeping on man
nice graphics

[zenarrow]

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this idea is blowing my mind
radical revolutionary even though its an old concept
keep on keeping on man
nice graphics

Thanks jikwan

I have just finished a video explaining it with the animations. Here is a playlist, the first 2 videos on the play list are the first 2 animated gifs above, doing about 4 or 5 cycles for about 30 seconds.

The 3rd video is one I just finished. Which goes for 10:46 and uses both animations, and explains the workings of the 4 stroke with a voice over, pauses, etc, and the 2 stroke conversion to an Implosion Engine. As well as playing the side by side at for the remaing minute or so.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7AF455C0A317C691

Perhaps later when I feel motivated to do so, I will explain with voice over the side by side cycles.

I get visions in my head of these things. I found describing them so someone else understands them is just falling far short of connecting most times. Since I am a philosopher as well, I see people arguing against others all the time, where both agree, but think the other is disagreeing with them. Such is the dysfunctional world we live it. To do it with anything less than a visual aid, is just too frustrating. I encourage all to use visual aids and use the multimedia technology we have available. It is worth learning, and should be part of the schooling requirements. For the future of mankind depends on us learning to communicate effectively. For from assumption only comes all manner strife. Assumptions shape the illusions we think are reality.

Peace by Kindness NOT War

ZenArrow

[GravityDad]

I sometimes have the same visions of people exchanging ideas and arriving at wondrous conclusions  I just stumbled across this Brown's gas 2 weeks ago doing "research" on wet oxygen for possible NOx reduction. To my surprise very little has been researched. It seems either quackery or took off toward Fuel Cell technology. The idea of an IMPLODING engine does sound different and certainly goes against all we think of as todays COMBUSTION engine. That maybe the problem in trying to combine HHO with todays engines. One thought I did have was how about turning the whole "engine" upside down!    Another is using HHO should not create any heat so out goes the radiator. This may present a problem in keeping the engine stable through cold and weather? Another idea that I have jumbling around in my head is: can magnetic force be used to somehow "couple" the "piston" instead of mechanical linkage. Remember the "block" can be made of almost anything since no real heat is generated. Ok enough here hope you keep up the good work zen arrow.

[zenarrow]

I sometimes have the same visions of people exchanging ideas and arriving at wondrous conclusions  I just stumbled across this Brown's gas 2 weeks ago doing "research" on wet oxygen for possible NOx reduction. To my surprise very little has been researched. It seems either quackery or took off toward Fuel Cell technology. The idea of an IMPLODING engine does sound different and certainly goes against all we think of as todays COMBUSTION engine. That maybe the problem in trying to combine HHO with todays engines. One thought I did have was how about turning the whole "engine" upside down!    Another is using HHO should not create any heat so out goes the radiator. This may present a problem in keeping the engine stable through cold and weather? Another idea that I have jumbling around in my head is: can magnetic force be used to somehow "couple" the "piston" instead of mechanical linkage. Remember the "block" can be made of almost anything since no real heat is generated. Ok enough here hope you keep up the good work zen arrow.

Hey GravityDad

Some very good ideas there.
The upside down engine was my first idea to, for the draining.
I am not sure on the magnetic force idea yet, will have to ponder some.
My mind likes the idea of many different concepts being overlaid to enhance one another. And I guess that is kinda my long term goal. To put all branches into one as it were. A bit like how the human mouth has so many uses for so many systems. From eating input, to tasting foods and drinks, to drinking, breathing, talking, to kissing and more.

If you watched my recent video, the second comment was about the valves being "sucked in" by the implosion, and getting past them. So that too is something to consider. The idea has been on my mind during sleep, and I was thinking that both valves are only open near TDC, and perhaps a mechanical linkage might hold them shut until near TDC. But that is a sloppy fix, based on trying to keep the current engine design. He also suggest the rotary engine, and was going to get back to me with information on that.

My first idea was to put the valves above the head, with a redesign. So sucking down would only seal them better.

If you research Dr Yul Brown, and there is a poor sound quality video on my unityenergy youtube channel http://www.youtube.com/user/UnityEnergy you will find that he couldn't get funding for research on it. It is atrocious sound, the mic is so far from him, and there is background interference. Almost like a conspiracy lol. But seriously, funding for this would put all fossil fuel companies out of business, and its right under our noses, we drink it to live. So hence no funding is deeper than he may have realized. When the reporter interviewer mentions the implosion, Brown does not want to go into it. Almost like he either knew of complications, or knew that any ideas on this would be thwarted by other sources.

The fuel companies dont mind HHO as an additive, as they still get to sell you oil products.
Ever wondered why they are still drilling for more oil, when there is the icecaps melting? The other week I heard a politican say plastic was bad, and said we are going to paper bags for groceries. Hello? Does anyone really take trees as the earths lungs seriously? Or it is based on, well everyone else is doing it, so it must not be so bad? Said the smoker who had lung cancer. Just had to get some perspective on why we want better ways of doing things. Personally I think money is almost like a disease. I prefer not to have money be any part of my motivation for anything. Pure science knowledge is the only motivator, with some ethics for tempering. Sorry didnt want to sound like a greenie. Im just aware of the balance of nature, and the need for the earth to stop smoking fossil fuels.

As far as engine temp in various weather conditions. I have not really experienced the cold nor the heat, thank God, I live in Sydney which I hear is like California weather. With only a handful of hot days a year and likewise of cold. It would be ironic if we ended up having to create the equivalent of an air conditioner for the engine bay? lol But since we are not generating any heat as a side effect to heat any water. Though temperature does sound like it would be a potential problem. But that is a future knowledge factor for the ball park figures of min and max operating temperatures. We need to get it running first.

Just a thought on the valve situation, a flash image in my mind of wheels rotating on the cam axis. Where the actuall wheel has a flat edge like a flat tyre, and seals up. But that is a lot of friction. Flash ideas, mmmm lol. Though maybe rubber is not such a bad idea either if there is less heat. Maybe like a squash ball blocking a hole. These are very off the top of my head flash ideas, so please dont think they are totally daft, just brainstorming possible combinations. As you say, sharing ideas.

Thanks for your input and reply.

[zenarrow]

Potential Valve problem...

It was noted by a comment to the video at my unityenergy You Tube channel
(video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndpk3qAJS-8&feature=PlayList&p=7AF455C0A317C691&index=2)

The comment by patman2nv

I dont think that is a very good theory for a couple reasons. First wouldn't the implosion pull the valves open easier than pulling the piston up? that could result in an implosion or reaction further back in the system. this theory may work better with a rotary engine.I saw on here a new engine in development that is a rotory cyle engine that uses combustion but i know that the way the ports are designed on that it should, in theory , work!!!!!!! i will find it and post again for you.

I do wonder how much different stronger valve springs would make?
As I do recall many hi performance engines have heavier springs to prevent or reduce valve bounce at hi speed. Of course the heavier springs would mean more load on the cams system. the other side of this is that the valves most likely would not need to open as much as for petrol fuel, at least on the exhaust cycle. The intake is up for experimentation, as is all of it. I do remind the reader this is all just ideas on the drawing board currently. I really like to have a lot of thought into the outcome before I commit to modifying my motorcycle

I am also considering the standard two stroke petrol engine, with ports. It's something to get my head around and it would be most likely a design from scratch. But that would be like casting it all.

On the other hand, if there is no explosive heat, I am considering a complete redesign of everything.

There are quite a lot of animations of a standard petroleum 2 stroke engine processes, really an ingenius idea. Though they have been improved for the many inefficiency losses due to speed differences. The original 2 strokes didnt have advance timing, nor reed valves to prevent losses. However an old Bridgestone 2 stroke I had come my way some 26 years ago, and also the kh125, had a rotary disc acting like valve going past the carbie in the crankcase input.

I have to get more familiar with the 2 stroke to see what needs modifying. To know how it works is different to being intimate. It's like learning an alphabet, words, sentence contructions, and how to put together paragraphs, by comparison, the various stages of familarity allow flow. The difference between having to stop and think, or having it come forth as second nature without conscious thought. Such is the creative inventive mind, familiarity with the principles as tools. (I did design an electronic advance for a 2 stroke some 22 years ago, then Suzuki came out with one 2 years later) But I am not so familiar with the ports internal aspects intimately.