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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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Dread

Xbox,

I just reread your post on the energetic forum, in response to the question of why you started your pressure test at 35 psi. You said that one of your test fires started at 40 psi and went up to 160 psi and I reading that right? If I am, that means that the relationship of pressure on energy output is non linear. Please confirm these results: 35 PSI - 75PSI. 40 PSI - 160 PSI. If this is so, this is VERY significant. In fact this is HUGE. You really need to do more tests with pressure. Sorry to keep loading you with tasks but I am afraid you are a victim of your own success. Here is what I would do / will do.
fire your cannon with water at 50 degrees,  0 PSI and log. Then again at 15 PSI and log. Then again at 30 PSI and log.
Repeat with water at 75 then 100 degrees. You would be able to plot an energy graph that will be so important in the development of working engines, that I believe people will actually model new engines based on your formula.

Rgds
D.

gotoluc

Hi everyone,

smw1998a of the Energetic Forum has directly sent me his schematics and will continue to do so as development happens. Aaron also agrees I can cross post.

Thank you to both your excellent work and sharing with all.

Luc

xbox hacker

@goat:
I have a steam cleaning thing. It shoots out steam at pressure. I tried it on a plug on the bench....steam did seem to do much. So i droped it.

@Dread:
QuotePlease confirm these results: 35 PSI - 75PSI. 40 PSI - 160 PSI

35psi to 75psi 100% YES, you can see it in the video

40psi to 160psi ....yes... but without video proof and further tests we can not conclude 100% Too many variables
-total chamber pressure
-spark gap size
-spark gap electrode shape (round...point...blunt)
-DC voltage

I need to make a "water injector" for the jig, thats part of the problem for now....




JuanDelaTorre

Quote from: xbox hacker on August 07, 2008, 11:55:35 AM
@Dread:
35psi to 75psi 100% YES, you can see it in the video

40psi to 160psi ....yes... but without video proof and further tests we can not conclude 100% Too many variables
-total chamber pressure
-spark gap size
-spark gap electrode shape (round...point...blunt)
-DC voltage

I need to make a "water injector" for the jig, thats part of the problem for now....

@Xbox
After carefully observing your video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He26yOULGu4, I believe that the intake and exhaust valves are NOT needed.

@ all
Intake and exhaust valves are used to bring in fuel and remove exhausted fuel out.  However in our case, we aren?t doing a chemical burn and therefore no fuel needs to be brought in and out.  The expansion of the 35psi to 75psi (thank you Xbox) shows that the cylinder could be closed--I think.  I do not know if the 30-70psi is enough difference to drive a piston down and back up; I will have to test this for myself. 

I surmise that in order to get an ICE to work with plasma and water, these are the steps I have to follow:
1. Close the intake and exhaust values. I have a 3hp B&S lawnmower engine to do this.
2. Have the correct amount of water in the cylinder so as not to ?flood? the spark gap, but enough to agitate the water with the plasma. (For the plasma I will use Cap70?s circuit)
3. Find the correct pressure to drive the piston down and up. Xbox shows that 35psi goes to 70psi, and 40psi goes to 160psi; again, I will have to do experiments to find the proper combination.

Please let me know if my reasoning is correct. I will try this experiment this weekend and post my results.

And please excuse my English.

Juan

xbox hacker

Quote from: JuanDelaTorre on August 07, 2008, 03:44:54 PM
@Xbox
After carefully observing your video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He26yOULGu4, I believe that the intake and exhaust valves are NOT needed.

Juan

Something similar had crossed my mind!  ;)