URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[ezbruce]

good morning Mr. LUC
I just watched you video on your converted lawn mower.One of the major problems with a single is balance.If you do not have a blade on the mower ( I.E. some sort of a flywheel ) they are difficult to start and run. Possibly because of the sensitivity of your P/U switch which just MIGHT be jumping around.( Just a thought trying to help)also a big thank you for the TIG schematic I could not get it to get that big. In the lower right hand of the drawing at the High freq(high voltage)CR-2 and CR-1 most probably would have the same value. these are controlled buy the operator and for our need lets just say we are going to use the continuous one ,since we are.This current goes to a transformer which goes through another transformer with another cap (C-2 )as of yet this value un known.this signal seems to mix with another lower value transformer value ( for us this could be the High amp DC side) and out comes what we need a plasma spark Bang, and in Nano seconds disassociation.If you or ANY OR YOUR ELECTRONICS GUY'S this method just might work for us,  ALL YOU GUY'S PLEASE CRITIQUE AND COMMENT AND TRY TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER SCHEMATIC.


Thanks  Bruce

[UncleFester]

UncleFester,

The TIC106 used in my circuit is good enough to make the initial spark on a spark plug.
It is rated 5 ampere (much higher when pulsed) and with the CDI capacitor at 2uF2 the drive is plenty to start the spark.
The main power to get plasma then comes from the capacitor before the diode chain. The proposed
diodes is LT10A07. Those diodes can take 10 ampere (much higher when pulsed). I have built and tested my circuit as
a CDI system. It works just fine. That said, there is no problem with using a bigger SCR and a bigger CDI capacitor.

I have started a research project converting a 1,5HP water pump. My main goal is first is to add a CDI circuit and plasma
enhancer to the motor. I will replace the water pump with a generator. Then I will add a water injector and try to run
the motor with brown gas (HHO) and water as cooling. Attached is my design so far.

Groundloop.

Hi Alex,

It works fine at low power levels, but at 3 joules it doesn't work. We need more than 3 joules to get good water splitting, and preferably 5 joules or more. Best energy is going to be 450-600 volts @ 50uF. That looks like a great engine for this project. We have two generators we are converting, one is a Chonda (Chinese Honda clone) 5.5 Horse and a 3.5 horsepower real Honda. The Chonda will use the standard GEET reactor and the smaller Honda is getting a custom unit that Bob Krupa designed.

[gotoluc]

SCR's are the only devices I've been able to get to work reliably up to 1000 volts @ 25 amp. The one I fried was 1200V @ 300A I believe, but you can find NTE parts that are available and rated for 1200V @ 25A and cost about $12 a piece. I will go grab the part number from them. The one in GroundLoops circuit is way, way too small, those pop like popcorn even at 2 joules. The mosfet for the ignition driver that would run off a car electronic system would be similar to this one: http://ixdev.ixys.com/DataSheet/99477.pdf

That would be for the charging side to drive a step-up coil to charge a 50uF @ 800V cap. Then the charged cap could be discharged through an SCR and give us around 5 joules. I already have the charging side designed, and I have a processor controlled version already built except for the discharge portion of the circuit. It uses a PIC 12F683 (8 pin) processor, has two snubbers across the step-up coil and appears to work well so far. The discharge side would be fired once the processor see's the cap at full charge for bench testing, and the same input can be used for a crank trigger signal from a very simple coil sitting above the crank magnet.

@UncleFester

Thank you once again UncleFester for your help and advice on the SCR's. After testing my switching circuit (indoors) last night, I have come to the conclusion that the relay was causing the inconsistencies. I must move on to the SCR switching   I'll check today with another local electronic store to see what hey have available in stock. If I can't get it in town it will be ordering it on the internet and it will take more than a week to get them.

Luc

UncleFester,

The TIC106 used in my circuit is good enough to make the initial spark on a spark plug.
It is rated 5 ampere (much higher when pulsed) and with the CDI capacitor at 2uF2 the drive is plenty to start the spark.
The main power to get plasma then comes from the capacitor before the diode chain. The proposed
diodes is LT10A07. Those diodes can take 10 ampere (much higher when pulsed). I have built and tested my circuit as
a CDI system. It works just fine. That said, there is no problem with using a bigger SCR and a bigger CDI capacitor.

I have started a research project converting a 1,5HP water pump. My main goal is first is to add a CDI circuit and plasma
enhancer to the motor. I will replace the water pump with a generator. Then I will add a water injector and try to run
the motor with brown gas (HHO) and water as cooling. Attached is my design so far.

Groundloop.

@Groundloop

Hi Groundloop, I'm moving to your circuit but I will need an SCR that can handle minimum 800vdc and would much prefer to use 3,000vdc. My tests show that increased voltage and reducing capacitance give a better result than just increasing capacitance. This video demonstrates that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvJVbA8Upvs  UncleFester has also noticed and confirmed this.

So if I'm going to build a solid state circuit, I would like it to be heavier on the voltage switching capability than the amperage if at all possible.

I like your HHO water injection project. This is an excellent direction. A fine mist of water injected at the most Intense heat point is going to make any combustion engine work with minimal energy in and minimal energy wasted out of the exhaust!...which should change the average 30% energy at the crank to over 70%

You will succeed with this!...we should of been doing this a long time ago!... actually my friend Rick and I were talking about this last week. He is over 70 y.o. and originally form Great Britain and worked most his life as a mechanical engineer and says they were doing that with the first Turbo Prop Aircraft's to keep the engines from melting.

Luc

[gotoluc]

good morning Mr. LUC
I just watched you video on your converted lawn mower.One of the major problems with a single is balance.If you do not have a blade on the mower ( I.E. some sort of a flywheel ) they are difficult to start and run. Possibly because of the sensitivity of your P/U switch which just MIGHT be jumping around.( Just a thought trying to help)also a big thank you for the TIG schematic I could not get it to get that big. In the lower right hand of the drawing at the High freq(high voltage)CR-2 and CR-1 most probably would have the same value. these are controlled buy the operator and for our need lets just say we are going to use the continuous one ,since we are.This current goes to a transformer which goes through another transformer with another cap (C-2 )as of yet this value un known.this signal seems to mix with another lower value transformer value ( for us this could be the High amp DC side) and out comes what we need a plasma spark Bang, and in Nano seconds disassociation.If you or ANY OR YOUR ELECTRONICS GUY'S this method just might work for us,  ALL YOU GUY'S PLEASE CRITIQUE AND COMMENT AND TRY TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER SCHEMATIC.

Thanks  Bruce

Hi ezBruce,

since I'm not a real electronic guy all I can do is what I'm doing now. I reattached the schematic to your last post to make it easier for those who are reading your post to look at what you are pointing out. If you have the ability to test this I would advise for you to do so, as many here have many projects on the go and may not get involve!... but let us see.

After testing my switching circuit (indoors) last night, I have come to the conclusion that the relay is causing the inconsistencies. I must move on to the SCR switching

I'll try another local electronic store to see what hey have.

Luc

[Groundloop]

UncleFester,

The main energy to the spark plug does NOT come from the CDI circuit. It is coming from the Inverter.
If you increase C10 (in my circuit drawing) then you increase the energy going to the plug. Also,
if you increase the voltage to the inverter you get the same result. To increase the inverter output
voltage just use a voltage doubler. I will probably use a home made transformer on the inverter
that gives me approx. 600 volt AC. The TIC106D can be replaced with any type of SCR as long as
the drive resistors on the opto coupler is changed to give the correct trigger current. Looking forward
to hear your results with your motors.

Groundloop.