URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[jstadwater]

Hey Guys,

I just hooked up a HEI Distributor from a Chevy 350 to fire plasma! I have it locked in a vice on the bench, wired out to an external coil, worked great charging the cap to 120V. HOWEVER, when I added a voltage doubler circuit to the cap, I fried the ignition module. (I wanted that extra bang, just got it in the wrong place)  My fault, I think, I failed to isolate the grounding circuits from each other. Question is this, what would be a good way to "in-line" protect the module from harm's way? Would a few 1 amp fuses in all directions from the module be a good start? It was perfectly happy with the cap firing at 120V. Closer to 300V.......not so happy. Don't want to switch to frying modules instead of inverters.  The inverters only cost $40, my boss just replaced the module, it was $55. I have spark again now. This underway experiment is an attemp to fuse together the "piggy-back" Nexus circuit technology with the "gmeast" "super isolated CDI plasma" circuit technology. Since I like both circuits, why not try to use a degree of both circuits and hook up a V-8 to see if it will work well enough. My boss just got a digital video camera that will allow me to FINALLY upload videos to the computer and then the web. I will be recording my first EVER video to upload maybe later today, subject.....V-8 HEI CDI Plasma!!! (if I can keep from frying ignition modules, that is). Wish me luck, any insight on protecting the ignition module is appreciated and needed. Thanks everyone for all the help freely given here.  Later.......................................Mike

[gmeast]

Hey Guys,

I just hooked up a HEI Distributor from a Chevy 350 to fire plasma! I have it locked in a vice on the bench, wired out to an external coil, worked great charging the cap to 120V. HOWEVER, when I added a voltage doubler circuit to the cap, I fried the ignition module. (I wanted that extra bang, just got it in the wrong place)  My fault, I think, I failed to isolate the grounding circuits from each other. Question is this, what would be a good way to "in-line" protect the module from harm's way? Would a few 1 amp fuses in all directions from the module be a good start? It was perfectly happy with the cap firing at 120V. Closer to 300V.......not so happy. Don't want to switch to frying modules instead of inverters.  The inverters only cost $40, my boss just replaced the module, it was $55. I have spark again now. This underway experiment is an attemp to fuse together the "piggy-back" Nexus circuit technology with the "gmeast" "super isolated CDI plasma" circuit technology. Since I like both circuits, why not try to use a degree of both circuits and hook up a V-8 to see if it will work well enough. My boss just got a digital video camera that will allow me to FINALLY upload videos to the computer and then the web. I will be recording my first EVER video to upload maybe later today, subject.....V-8 HEI CDI Plasma!!! (if I can keep from frying ignition modules, that is). Wish me luck, any insight on protecting the ignition module is appreciated and needed. Thanks everyone for all the help freely given here.  Later.......................................Mike

Well, this is how progress is made ... takes someone with guts to try things. Best of luck!

Greg

[AbbaRue]

Some cool videos showing the power of water zapped with electricity.

6000V underwater spark in a swimming pool:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=7071092171301511423&ei=mE7qSNWTMIvs-wHdiKW_CA&q=%22underwater+spark%22&hl=en

6000V underwater spark in a pale of salt water:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7494412709896356081&ei=mE7qSNWTMIvs-wHdiKW_CA&q=%22underwater+spark%22&hl=en

[Chris31]

Hi Greg

Very impressive progress you are making there. Have been following it very closely 

I read you wanted to try multisparks?

I have played with it on my CDI and I must say, it need alot of power to achieve this.

For example, if you wanted 3 sparks at 3000 RPM, you will need to be able to charge and discharge the capacitor 3 times within 10 degrees per revolution.

If you plug in all the values you have on your circuit using this calculator >

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Bill_Bowden/rc.htm

You will find that its almost imposible to achieve it, unless you increase the inverters power output or reduce the capacitor capacity.

Have you checked if the capacitor is getting charged to 63.2% of the supply (atleast) before dumping it to the coil when the engine is running at 3000 RPM let say? A scope should show you this.

The reason I asked is because I noticed you have put a limiting resistor in series with the capacitor, and the capacitor is such a big value... you may get away with a smaller capacitor value.

Keep up the good work, excellent stuff you got there 

[gmeast]

@gmeast,

Have you noticed any overheating in your diodes.......

What is the longest amount of time you have ran the engine with the plasma ignition ?


HV

Hi HV,

The current felt by the diodes (4in parallel) has a relationship to the Cap size.  I have no overheating on continuous running with my 47uF Cap.  During development, 100uF got them too warm for my liking.  Of course it made a HUGE plasma burst ... probably destructive to the plug.

Thanks HV,

Greg