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Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

Started by hartiberlin, October 04, 2005, 06:54:25 PM

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ResinRat2

Hi everyone,

Well, sometime over the last 40 hours the reaction has stopped. When I walked in this morning no activity was seen in the beaker and the zinc electrode had a dark surface. The reduction of the zinc did not keep up with the oxidation, this confirms what I read in the patent this morning before I came to work. The solution in the beaker looks clear.

A total of 22 grams of water (with evaporation included) was consumed in the reaction before it died. This is over a 40 hour period since I weighed the apparatus on Saturday (for me here in the United States).  Three moles of gas for every 2 moles of water theoretically gives a volume generation of 22g water/18g per mole water x 22.4L/mole x 3moles gas per 2 moles of water  = 41 liters of gas generated over a 40 hour period. Of course it is most likely less time. I think this calculation is correct. Somebody correct me if I am wrong. This is with a 1/16" tungsten electrode.

I brought the solution volume in the beaker back up to its original volume of 80ml with deionized water, then I took a AA 1.5 volt battery and connected the positive electrode to the zinc and the negative to the tungsten. Nothing happened. This was expected if the zinc oxidation had occured.

I then switched the connections and the zinc electrode began to vigorously produce gas. This must be the oxygen that was talked about in the patent. The reaction is vigorous. After 5 minutes it looks like the zinc electrode is beginning to lighten. I will allow this reaction to continue until I see a great slowdown. Then I will remove the battery and see what happens. Theoretically it should start producing hydrogen again.

This is a very interesting experiment. I will keep adding observations as it continues.



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ResinRat2

Hi everyone,

Just a thought. Looking at it from an equilibrium point of view, since it is a combination of chemical reactions, I wonder if increasing the concentrations of the components that favor the reduction of zinc might shift the equilibrium of the reaction back toward the zinc reduction side. This would balance the reaction and maybe avoid, or slow the depleting of the zinc electrode. This would probably slow the hydrogen production but it might still proceed at an acceptable level.

I'm just brainstorming. Somebody give me your thoughts.

Thanks for your interest.
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

Kator01

Hello,

here some info about tungsten carbide, unfortunately only in german ( wikipedia ). Maybe it is also there available in englisch.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolframcarbid

It is not welding-rods. it is a very hard material used for drilling of hard metals or used as tank-cracking weapons ( supplement of uranium).

I am still doing further research. Hope you got the point.

Kator

Kator01

Hello,

here english information about tungsten carbide. This is a german website of a company in Austria which sells
tungsten-carbide powder:

http://www.wolfram.at/wolfram_at/wDeutsch/produkte/carbid/WC_eigenschaften.html

Research continues
Kator

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