Gravity Mill - any comments to this idea?

[prajna]

tbird,

a cylinder of diameter 15cm and a height of 30cm has a volume of 53.01 litres

53.01 litres = 1.87203048 cubic feet so that is where your error is.

Unless I have my decimal point in the wrong place.  I'll go check.

I have added a detail picture of the shuttle so that might answer your second question.  Don't quack

[prajna]

Yes, decimal point in the wrong place.  Sorry tbird the volume should be 5.3 litres  = 0.187167734 cubic feet.  I'll fix my calculator.  Thanks for pointing it out.

I'd better check my pumping capacity too.

[prajna]

phew!  I think I have decimal points in all the right places now.  Can someone please check by calculating the volumes for themselves and comparing the results to my calculator.

Oh, and I have fixed it so that the javascript runs in DOM compliant browsers like Firefox too.

Time to add some compression calculations I think...

http://declarepeace.org.uk/energy/elsa.htm to save you having to find the link.

[prajna]

Announce, Announce...

ELSACALC now calculates the recompression requirements and excess water.  Read it 'n weep ('cause we never worked on this earlier).

Anyone care to check my calculations?

http://declarepeace.org.uk/energy/elsa.htm

[hartiberlin]

Hi guys,
I think the ELSA system is the first system which can be calculated mathematically
to run and to have overunity.

Now I thought a lot in the last days, how to best build such a unit, but I must say, it is
very complicated with all the mechanics involved.
So I am thinking now about how to do it much more easily.

One way could be to just rotate the main water case by 180 degrees,
when the water has been pumped up and over the center of gravity
of the whole unit, so it can tilt by 180 degrees and the cycle can begin again.
Then you also don?t need to compress the shuttle anymore.

This is also not so easy cause you have to see how to get more water weight
over the center of gravity of the whole unit..

A second new idea is to just use a slow rotating water cylinder with
a fixed volume shuttle in it and every time the water cylinder has turned
by 180 degrees the shuttle with buoyant force is again at the ground of the cylinder
and will rise up again.

Think about a Plastic coke bottle which is filled with water to the top.
Then put a ping-pong ball in it and screw the lid tight.
Then rotate the coke bottle and you see, that the ping-pong ball
rises every 180 degrees from the buttom to the top
inside the coke bottle, if you continue to rotate the bottle.
Now if you have the a bigger and longer watercylinder and
have a bigger shuttle than a ping-pong ball you have real good
bouyant forces, which can pull via a thread on a generator axis
in the watercylinder, so you could generate quite some power
this way and couple it to a flywheel that keeps
the watercylinder rotating !
I guess this also could work. I will
calculate the energy you would win per 180 degrees lift.

Regards, Stefan.