A machine to convert gravity to mechanical energy # 2

[TinselKoala]

Brian, have you tried to get your mechanical arrangement to run in a simulator of some kind? I suggest you download and play with the Phun simulator for a while. It's easy to use and models gravity. And it's phun!

Since it is possible to get a Bessler-type gravity wheel to run in Phun, you might be able to get your system or a subset of it to work as well--if the mechanism is even possible, which I and others doubt strongly.

So, the point of the Phun exercise, for you, would be to see if your basic mechanical layout will even turn, start, stop, expand, accelerate, etc. like you think, regardless of whether it will extract free momentum from somewhere. You can power it with a Phun motor, for example, to test the mechanisms.

http://www.phunland.com/wiki/Home
and here is a file that is a working Bessler-style gravity wheel, thanks to our invisible rabbit friend Harvey.
http://www.mediafire.com/?kdnyloqmjhx

Have Phun!

[mondrasek]

TK,

Check out the Hinge at the center of that Bessler demo.  It's a motor set at 15 RPM.  Turn that off and the Bessler demo will not self run.

M.

[brian334]

Koala,
Thanks for the info, its looks like Phun could be great fun.
It will take me some time to learn how to use it.

[TinselKoala]

TK,

Check out the Hinge at the center of that Bessler demo.  It's a motor set at 15 RPM.  Turn that off and the Bessler demo will not self run.

M.

Darn that silly rabbit, anyway! I looked thru that file and didn't find the motor. Harvey is playing tricks again...
Oh, well, back to the drawing board...
Still, it should help Brian try out his mechanism.

EDIT
I just checked--that hinge motor is turned off, even though its speed is 15 rpm. You can set the speed to zero and the simulation still turns.

[brian334]

Koala.
When I looked at Phun I looked for a tool that would help with my invention. Phun did not help.
I am not saying its not a nice toy, but it is not any help to me.