Canceling Lenz's Law - Methods

[capthook]

tao - good post.

What you are describing is similar to the Adams motor design.  I think this type of design holds the highest promise for OU.

One thing you didn't include is the 'pre-charge' of the pulse coils.  As the magnet approaches, attracted to the core, the pulse windings begin 'pre-charging', resulting in a smaller input required from the source to power the pulse coil.
So in the whole process you get:
1. Free acceleration from the magnet to the core
2. Free 'precharge' of the pulse windings
3. Usable output from the generator windings
4. Usable output from the collapsing field of the pulse windings and the generator windings

5?  The portion I'm unsure of is the repulsion created by the core/generator windings you describe?

Have you observed/measured this?  More details?  So rather than seperate pulse/pickup coils you need to wind them in a bifilar wrap or one on top of the other for this effect?

There should be more work being done on the Adams motor theory IMO!  It's not a 'repulsion' motor, but rather more an 'attraction cancelling' motor with pickup coils.

[broli]

God this is getting me nowhere. The experiment on the first page or the one in this image...



Does not fully compute in my head. I think the confusion is because the fact that induction is actually a cascading effect. When a magnetic field is changed a current is induced such that the magnetic field created by this current opposes that changing field. This is Lenz's law as most of you know. But this keeps applying "infinitely".  Because the induced field is also changing so this again induces another field countering that one and this induces another counter field and so on... Stuff gets even more confusing when dealing with self induction.

[Nali2001]

Hi Tao,
Good explanation you got there, I know how hard it is to put a detailed process explanation onto a 'few' words.
You describe the Adams motor to a great extend am I right?

Anyway lets talk about your 'point 9'
I see what you are getting at. You consider the 'returing' field from the magnet after tdc as 'incoming/inbound' relative to the coil and in that respect will lenz indeed set up a repelling field. And accelerate the rotor motion. But... here is the point I wonder about. It is true that the field can be seen as 'inbound' but the physical magnet itself is in reality 'moving away' so along that line of thought lenz will 'eventually' set up an attracting field and restrict the magnets field from leaving again. Since the field of the magnet has to leave the core at some point...So it is a bit of a power struggle between the two modes. Wonder who wins? Any though on that?

Regards,
Steven

[supermuble]

BEP,-- why the frustration?    If you are upset because we have some incorrect ideas, please help to correct those ideas. Don't just stand there, grab a shovel! 

broli, I did also have trouble visualizing the flow of current, magnetism and opposing fields (Lenz's law). The things that happen in coils cannot be seen with our eyes, so obviously visualizing it can be tough. I felt that it was important for people to study this more. The study of induction seems to be more important than any other single thing. Because if you understand magnetic fields, you can build a machine of any shape, size or power that produces over-unity. Electronic circuits seem to be only 25% of the equation in free energy generators creating free energy, the rest deals with induction.

So, the easiest way to get a good understanding of induction is to simply grab a coil of wire and pass a magnet over it. You can see how the magnet charges the coil differently by using different angles and different movements of the magnet.

Maybe this will help. Imagine that any given coil of wire on a spool that has an open top and bottom, it wants to FIGHT the motion of ANY MOVING MAGNETIC field. Whether the magnetic field is another electromagnetic or moving magnet. This is what happens in a transformer when you load the secondary, it fights off the primary's magnetic field since causing a cancellation in the total magnetic flux in the core (less overall inductance) hence more current draw into the primary until the flux is built back up (yes it is a cascading effect, always continuously variable, up until too much load occurs and the wires burn up!). On an AC power outlet from the house, if you hook it to a big coil of wire on a metal core, it won't flow much current because of the inductance. Induction happens because the center core acts like a moving magnet, moving on and off.

Faraday's law of induction (please find a very simple explanation of it without any math, and read it if you haven't lately). It says that the way to induce current into a coil is to have changing magnetic fields. You technically just need to have a "change" and no real physical motion. So when the magnet leaves the core, the center of the coil changes by losing its magnetism, this change creates current according to the Faraday law.

If you are still confused, there is one very easy thing to do. Take a roller skate wheel and build a Bedini motor. It takes 25 minutes to build from start to finish. When the motor runs it produces a sharp back EMF voltage that shocks you. If you touch the wire with wet fingers, you will get shocked. I've shocked myself with every possible method I can imagine and it has helped the learning curve dramatically. We are talking about very low amperage, nothing dangerous! I don't grab onto 120v household wires. I learned about inductors by shocking myself with about 5 different coils and configurations. The worst shocks occur when you add inductors in series with pulsed DC. It creates the highest voltage. What is very strange is that back EMF spikes are stronger than the original voltage that created them. With a single coil (not a transformer) you get 10 times multiplication out of a small 450 turn coil with 24 gauge wire. Up until a couple months ago, I thought it was impossible to step up power without a transformer, but it is possible - and you can feel it when you shock yourself!  .

Tesla shocked himself to learn. Let us learn from the best. Ha ha!

[gyulasun]

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Up until a couple months ago, I thought it was impossible to step up power without a transformer, but it is possible - and you can feel it when you shock yourself!  .
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Hi,

May I kindly notice for you that it is STILL impossible to step up power with a transformer, unfortunately.
What you can feel when you shock yourself is the flyback voltage pulse which can indeed be higher even 10 times than the voltage you fed into the coil.  It is the higher intensity or the higher peak amplitude of the pulse received after the switch-off  which stings you.
But this is a voltage pulse and you cannnot call it power (nor energy), ok?  You can study flyback pulse when googling for flyback transformers for instance. 

rgds,  Gyula