Joule Thief

[Koen1]

Hi General  Do you suspect then that as i suspect that true ac is coming off the mk2 rather than pulsed dc . That is the only explanation i see as an led Will light both ways on ac but not pulsed dc . ? so if that is the case  Winding a Jt in this fashion will convert PDC to Ac ? I think so .

lol and I thought I was going nutty as I found this too... But I found it with a really crappy ring coil,
which was in fact so bad I pulled it apart and wound a new one the proper way... After which I got
no light from the backward LED...
So, just to get things straight here, what exactly do you mean by "Mk2 fashion winding"?
Is that like one half of the coil cw, the other ccw... no wait, that was the Jeanna variation, wasn't it?
Ah, I see now, I am just confusing the heck out of myself
If I have the time later I'll start digging through the 300+ pages to find what exactly the Mk2 variation
was again, then I'll know what you're talking about

A silly question: what if we take the "secondary" wrapped around the JT, and not only connect
a number of LEDs across it, but also connect a suitable capacitor behind these LEDs?
Could we get the LEDs to light up and at the same time collect all of the charges pumped through
them on the cap for later use?? (will try that soon, need to find my caps)
If so, perhaps we could use the charge buildup on that cap to control the input from the battery
into the JT primary, without really needing to use the battery positive and the ground for that
input pulse? I'm thinking, charge builds up on secondary cap coupling, and will need to be
discharged into ground occasionally, but should build up charge untill then...
Hmm... I suppose I need to ponder that a bit more...

regards,
Koen

[innovation_station]

well it got busy FAST ROUND HERE......

LOL

yes ac is generated from the mk2 winding ...

also

i think a led should possibly be there first ... b4 the fullwave bridge...  why ?!?!?!?!

well

i liked my supply jt soooooo much i will make 2 of them ...     just to insure that it powers the 6 with EASE.......

also my batteries in my devider DRAIN QUITE QUICKLY ...   

this is a good thing....  why!?!?!?!?!?!

well 

they will always be dead!!!!!!!!!   lol hence easy proof!!! 

i added 2 places to RECHARGE 4 AA BATTERIES ....     

SO A RECAP   i will have 2 dead aa batteries driveing this unit ...  they will recharge 2 aa each...  plus recharge the 6 way divider and power my 30 outputs...

SINCE IM REALLY NUITS I WILL ADD A HAND CRANK UNIT ...  to recharge 2 other aa batteries ..  and 1 solar unit ...   

it is all FREE!!!   

IF YOU HAVE 3MIN TO CRANK THE HANDLE OR A FEW HOURS OF SUN..... 




WHO SAYS IT CAN NOT BE DONE !?!?!?!?!?!   

THOSE THAT SAY  NEVER TRIED ......

IST!

[gadgetmall]

lol and I thought I was going nutty as I found this too... But I found it with a really crappy ring coil,
which was in fact so bad I pulled it apart and wound a new one the proper way... After which I got
no light from the backward LED...
So, just to get things straight here, what exactly do you mean by "Mk2 fashion winding"?
Is that like one half of the coil cw, the other ccw... no wait, that was the Jeanna variation, wasn't it?
Ah, I see now, I am just confusing the heck out of myself
If I have the time later I'll start digging through the 300+ pages to find what exactly the Mk2 variation
was again, then I'll know what you're talking about

A silly question: what if we take the "secondary" wrapped around the JT, and not only connect
a number of LEDs across it, but also connect a suitable capacitor behind these LEDs?
Could we get the LEDs to light up and at the same time collect all of the charges pumped through
them on the cap for later use?? (will try that soon, need to find my caps)
If so, perhaps we could use the charge buildup on that cap to control the input from the battery
into the JT primary, without really needing to use the battery positive and the ground for that
input pulse? I'm thinking, charge builds up on secondary cap coupling, and will need to be
discharged into ground occasionally, but should build up charge untill then...
Hmm... I suppose I need to ponder that a bit more...

regards,
Koen

hello Koen . Its Mk1's Baby project Concerning Magnetic Amplifiers and the exact diagrams are around page 300 .. at least you wont have to go all the way back and read  As far as the charge cap and  the Ou Jt  i have not put it open source  . Sorry but i am  involved in a Much Bigger Project and it can have world wide implications so i cannot post it open source . i vaguely mentioned the process  in this thread somewhere  . Oh Darn Guess you will have to read it all if you want to know what it is 
Regards
gadget 

[innovation_station]

@ hazens1

i noticed you used a green toroide....  well i have 2 diffrent green toroides ...

i have 1 exactly the same as you used .. and i had ok results...  but yours looks pastial like ... and not so green ...  more lima green

could be a problem 

i have also noticed that some other cores are pastel colour ...   some of my yellow ones are....  some are real bright yellow....

i think if you add a turn your results will change...

try a black 1 

also DIODES ARE VERRY IMPORTANT .....    this is a lower freq unit so high resistance diodes will work best ....  when we get to high freq... or higher ..... we will want low resistance diodes.. 

just how i see it

i will add a picture of my unit in the works today i hope to get it all hooked up today ... 



ist!!

[innovation_station]

hello Koen . Its Mk1's Baby project Concerning Magnetic Amplifiers and the exact diagrams are around page 300 .. at least you wont have to go all the way back and read  As far as the charge cap and  the Ou Jt  i have not put it open source  . Sorry but i am  involved in a Much Bigger Project and it can have world wide implications so i cannot post it open source . i vaguely mentioned the process  in this thread somewhere  . Oh Darn Guess you will have to read it all if you want to know what it is 
Regards
gadget 

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