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Why does mass slow time?

Started by gravityblock, November 25, 2008, 05:31:30 AM

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PYRODIN123321

Do you think you would be able to feel time speeding up or slowing down? seems like you wouldn't......

here is a whopper 

if "Objects, matter and space (space-time) are made of the same thing"

and mass has inertia, does time also have inertia?
Peace.

Alien509

Quote from: gravityblock on November 25, 2008, 05:31:30 AM
Photons, and everything else, like planets, try to go where time is least. Gravity curves spacetime because the photons or anything that has mass are seeking or are pulled toward a path of least time, which is a path of more gravity. Physicists have proven with atomic clocks and satellites that gravity slows time. Clocks run slower at lower altitudes where gravity is stronger. Time is least (flows more slowly) where gravity is most.

The earth orbiting the sun has momentum which keeps it in orbit. If the earth's momentum were to stop, the earth would seek the path of least time, and be pulled straight into the sun! It would not follow a curved path to the sun if it does not have momentum.

1) Mass causes gravity.
2) Mass seeks or is pulled where time is least.
3) The larger the mass, the least time is.
4) spacetime is curved to the curvature of the mass.
5) Without mass, time is not curved.
6) Without momentum near a mass, space is not curved.

Einstein said as you approach the speed light time slows down and mass increases. This also holds true for a black hole, because of its mass, time slows as one accelerates toward the event horizon and time stops at the event horizon. The reason why time slows down as you approach the speed of light is because the mass increases(More mass means less time). The question I have is why does mass slow time, or is my thinking curved also, lol?


Mass Time and Energy are all the same thing. A newton is Kgm(S^-2). It is better to use impulse and momentum to define states of matter as Force multiplied by time = Mass multiplied by velocity. So yes Einstein was right in his thinking but he could not grasp how or why it worked. It is a reality because from a higher perspective one traveling at the speed of light in reference frame A (lower) would appear to be traveling slow in a higher reference frame B. Might even appear to be a point charge that simply moves slow. Mass slows time when it is being accelerated because the energy to accelerate that mass must come from the environment and in any instance mass is moved it requires energy from the environment by way of (mass or simply time). The reason why the original atomic bomb is so destructive is because it creates the energy it consumes in the process and time is actually gained as a result. The energy that moves then initially moves at the speed of light because time has no bounds on it. Whenever time is "put on tap" energy's force essentially becomes infinite, until the equilibrium returns by way of distribution of energy back through mass. Gravity can actually be viewed as a similar force to density and every planet or rock is bound by it's respective forces of every other interacting atom. Believe it or not the atom is as powerful as a star under the right circumstance. The limiting factor for tapping that energy is reliant upon the ability of the individual and the natural barriers of nature its self. If yours is curved then mine is twisted. :D

madddann

@Alien509

I agree to what you are sayin'... so if i try to simplify this a lot (just to get the feeling), lets say that everything is like a soft rubber cube - if time is the height, mass is the lenght and all the other stuff is in there also, we included... OMG, we are one... lol ...but, are we jumping?  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma5N0Gd3rM8

Dann

erickdt

Quote from: PYRODIN123321 on January 08, 2009, 04:20:58 PM
Do you think you would be able to feel time speeding up or slowing down? seems like you wouldn't......

here is a whopper 

if "Objects, matter and space (space-time) are made of the same thing"

and mass has inertia, does time also have inertia?

No, niether matter, energy, space or time are the same thing.

Matter is stuff.

Energy is the potential to do work.

Space is simply distance, a measurement, not a thing.

Time too is a measurement but it's a constant measurement by which everything else can be compared.

Now I'm not talking about time as in the time that your clock or watch. That's special relativistic time. That concept of time is based entirely on your relative speed as you travel through the Universe. As was pointed out before: we may think that we are perfectly stationary sitting here in front of our computers but in the context of the Universe we are travelling millions of miles per second. Outside of our little piece of special relativity time is indeed a constant. We'll just never be able to experience it...

gravityblock

Quote from: triffid on January 08, 2009, 12:23:40 PM
the faster a mass(like a rocket) travels through space the slower time gets for everyone aboard that mass(rocket).So why not rotate space through a mass and get the same result?Slower time flow for the entire mass? triffid

So why not rotate space through a mass and get the same result?  This may be how ufo's move through space and time.

There is speculation that ufo's may curve spacetime around their spacecraft which moves them through space at incredible speeds. This may allow them to travel faster than light since they would be dragging spacetime around them, and this is known as frame dragging (Look up frame dragging in wikipedia). I have a theory that the curved magnetic lines of force that photons follow inside permanent magnets allows the photons to move faster than light due to frame dragging, which causes the photons to escape detection and are called virtual photons instead. Frame dragging gives a particle or an object more time to continue accelerating.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.