Cavitation. The key to overunity?

[madddann]

@Grumpy

"Like I said - iron ain't like copper - it converts it differently."

- You mean that with iron the cooling effect is more intense than with copper right? If i'm not mistaken here, this is why Bedini says that with the "negative energy" or "radiant energy" you have to think backwards. How?

Lets see... i'll just share my theory so you guys can correct me if im' wrong or comfirm something in base of your experiments... it goes like this:
voltage and current are two opposite things, if we have one, we don't have the other or better said, the amount of one is counter proportional to the amount of the other. Is there any conclusion that we can come up with? I would say there is. Now this is what the school teach us: P=U*I (P is the power that we know of today and use it every day, it's based mostly on current - high current low voltage).
Now i would say that this is what the school does not teach us (this is also why i hate school - they tell you only one part of the story lol) and i put it like this: -P=U/I (in this case -P is the "negative energy" or "radiant energy" or call it whatever you want - black energy, black matter... now this is the mysterious thing that is bugging scientists until today. This energy is based mostly on voltage - high voltage low current)
Once we know that, the perpetual motion is perfectly achievable. Just look at the nature, isn't it perfect? I think this has to be the system of nature, what do you guys think about that?
And now we can also know the properties - behavior of materials when used in combination with "negative energy" - "negative electricity" (i'll just use the term "negative" to define it from now on). So the properties - behavior of materials are just opposite than when used with normal electricity, but some materials might be almost equal for both - minimal inverse charachteristics. So if a plastic is a dielectric with normal electricity (high current), it is a conductor for "negative electricity" (high voltage). If iron has a resistance for normal electricity and it heats up, it has a negative resistance for "negative electricity" and it cools down.
Hope you got the idea. Now the only thing that we don't know is where is the point between voltage and current where normal electricity is equal to "negative electricity"? This point is probably different for every kind of material - the closest thing that i can think of is breakdown voltage of materials, but when using "negative electricity" we should be talking about "breakdown current" of materials (yeah, something i came up with ...lol).
This theory is the result of the inspiration you guys gave me (thx all!), so i don't say it is right or wrong, but it would be fun to find out how much of this stands up and then correct the mistakes, once we understend all of this,... well you know what would this mean...
I guess now it's time for little experiments...
Your comments are very welcome!

Dann

[PaulLowrance]

I think the secret to "free energy" is ambient thermal energy. I would consider ZPE as a form of thermal energy, but IMO it's far too difficult to capture any measurable ZPE. It's best to stick with the vibrating charges, atoms, and molecules.

Does anyone have any theories why nearly 100% of the "free energy" community avoids discussing methods of capturing ambient thermal energy like the plague, but wants to pursue unknown exotic energies that are unproven?

One cubic meter of common matter has ~ 1 billion joules of natural ambient thermal energy. Water has more than twice that. If an "energy moving device" moved such energy to an appliance, then thermal conductivity merely replaces that energy. An ambient thermal energy mover would not create nor destroy energy, but would create an energy loop where energy would flow from the device to the appliance to the environment (air & earth, etc.), and then back to the device.

Such ambient energy, that exists in all matter and is sustained by the Sun, is well known of by conventional physics. The only difference is that *most*, not all, conventional physicists believe it is *impossible* to capture such energy. That is 100% incorrect. I've outlined the known limitations and errors in the laws of thermodynamics. Scroll down to "2LoT (2nd Law of Thermodynamics)"
http://greenselfreliantenergy.com/physics/dirtydetails/

Conventional physics is riddled with limitations. The concept of "equilibrium" is based on the fictitious concept that a closed system can be in perfect 100.0000...% equilibrium. In the *real* world, equilibrium is an *impossible* state that would require *infinite* thermal insulation in a closed system. When the mathematics works with and replies on *impossible* states such as equilibrium you end up with fictitious mathematics.

One prime example that disproves the laws of thermodynamics is diodes. The best small signal diode modeling mathematics, that is based on semiconductor mathematics, which is based on quantum physics, clearly shows that diodes *must* rectify ambient thermal energy such as Johnson noise. I've challenged countless physicists to show otherwise. Even the acclaimed genius, Mike Englehardt, the creator of LTspice, said that I am correct that the math shows diodes rectify Johnson noise. See the above link, beginning at the top, for the math that is based on QM (quantum physics).

So most people don't have a grasp just how much Johnson noise exists in ordinary matter at room temp. For metals, most of the ambient thermal energy exists is the free particles, which are the electrons. The amount of KE (kinetic energy) and PE (potential energy) energy in each degree of freedom is kT, where k is the Boltzmann constant, and K is the temperature in Kelvin. Each electron has three degrees of freedom in terms of movement. There are L * ρ / Ar = L * 8.96e+6 / 63.546 = 8.49e+28 atoms/m^2. Where ρ is the density in g/m^2, L is Avogadro constant, and Ar is the Atomic weight of copper. The total thermal energy in the free electrons is thus k * T * 3 * 8.49e+28 = 1.04 billion joules at a typical room temp of 295 Kelvin, where the "3" is the degrees of freedom for each free electron. Lets see if that matches the specific heat capacity of copper. WikiPedia shows the volumetric heat capacity of copper as being 3.45 J/(cc*K). There are 1e+6 cc's per m^3, which comes to 1.02 billion joules per m^3. That matches the 1.04 GJ's.

There is over 1 billion joules of Johnson noise per cubic meter of matter, which is sustained by solar energy.   There's no need to hunt for exotic energy when we're surrounded with more clean and reusable energy then we could ever use. My diode arrays prove that it's usable energy. The math proves is. My magnetic theory shows how to capture ambient thermal energy by means of magnetic materials.

PL

[PaulLowrance]

I have a theory why 100% don't pursue it, because the statement you just made is not true.

Thane Heins is nicely demonstrating how a high voltage coil can negate Lentz law and produce OU energy. It is hardly exotic and the technique was used in many free energy devices in the past such as the Hubbard coil and Cook patent.

I believe the energy coming from Thane's device is thermal energy. In terms of negating Lenz law, I think those particular experiments by Thane could be explained with the capacitance between all of the windings. Such an investigation is not simple and requires a scope, and you need to analyze all of the coils and the mutual inductance from each coil to other coils and the parallel capacitance of each winding.

Using diodes on the other hand to collect thermal energy is pretty far out there for some people including myself and to my knowledge has not been validated with working free energy devices by others.

All of Tom Schum's voltage readings on his diode array and all of CMB's (two) show a DC voltage, on all of the diode arrays. CMB claims his 1993 THz diode chip produced 100mV DC in a shielded room and oil bath.

If you on the other hand, prove that the leads of your volt meter are not picking up or donating some stray charge and you prove that it is cost effective and you prove that anyone can replicate a device that produces large amounts of current, then I am sure lots of people will get involved.

I've done that. Where are all of these people?

Until then, it looks like a busy work distraction to get people to produce tiny amounts of electricity that most do not have the expertise and equipment to measure as it is so small and so it really can't be proven to be OU or useful. Haven't seen that since the self running cold electricity that in the end, didn't self run or produce cold electricity.

Nobody here can produce high density diode array chips and so it is pie in the sky until someone does. Soldering a bunch of tiny diodes together with a cap is not going to produce a free energy device that matters in the real world of power consumption.

You completely missed my point. The ambient thermal energy exists, and I've outlined two methods of capturing such energy. 1) Diodes. 2) Magnetic material.

This thread about the cavitation link to free energy devices that have been created and validated in the past.

Gray tube
Methernitha
Hubbard coil
Tesla Magnifier
Thane Heins

Just to name a few... These are hardly "unknown exotic energies that are unproven."

Please show me one design with part numbers, and all the details to make it, that is self-running. The only one I know of is my diode array.  You are basing your theory on the Aharonav Bohm effect. It is well known, verified, and tested that the Aharonav Bohm effect is an extremely difficult effect to detect. There's no macro big effect that you speak of. What you emailed me is just simply not the Aharonav Bohm effect. I could just as easily say the above machines capture ambient thermal energy. For now, there's no validation for this cavitation. My point is that ambient thermal energy is well proven and accepted by conventional physics.  I just find it odd that nearly 100% of the people in the "free energy" community ignore real known energy and for decades keep trying to capture unknown exotic energy when they're surround with massive amounts of thermal energy that is sustained by the Sun. In a matter of two years, one person, myself, designed and built a "free energy" machine that anyone can build that includes the exact part numbers. Sure, it produces hardly no power, but it proves it's possible. Diodes is not the only method. You can use magnetic materials.


PL

[sparks]

   A cavitation in water allows the water to boil into the cavity as  well as accelerate any chemical reactions between molecules on the surface of the vacuum.  For any endothermic reactions to occur they are gonna need heat.
So we just transferred heat from surrounding molecules to the ones boiling into the cavity.  Now what is cool is that this is not a fixed cavity it's one that's gonna collapse real fast.  So the steam inside the cavity gets compressed big time.  Faster than it can transfer the heat of fusion to the collapsing field.  So the specific temp of the gas goes through the roof.  The gas has no altenative then to shed mass as the field is incapable of converting the thermal energy of the gas into the kinetic energy of the surrounding mass.  So it starts pitching emwaves out of it's structure as fast as it can.  This finally returns heat to the ambient at a rate acceptable to allow the total collapse of the bubble.  Least I think that is the way it happens.  Makes the steam go radioactive in a very time compressed event.  The field gets it's heat back and there is a temperature rise in the fluid because while the bubble was doing its collapsing deal the cooled fluid around the bubble was getting heat input from the rest of the fluid and any heat exchanger that acts as a heat scource.
   

[Grumpy]

You can get rid of ZPE with a clever modification of Maxwell - I never believed in it anyway.

You can't tap into the "universal energy" unless you use the proper means to bring it together, build it up, and convert it.  If it was already conventional current, anyone could tap into it.

As for diodes, I can believe the results Paul is getting. You can get the same or better with an elevated plate, another plate in the ground and a cap between them - this directly converts the universal energy and stores it in a capacitor, but you will find that it only catches a small amount.  This can probably charge batteries too, but I expect it will be slow, but then solar is slow too. 

Diodes will not get you 1000:1 gain, but other things will.   This is why I suggested that the diodes be explored and the underlying mechanism determined, so that the mechanism can be applied in other ways.  Hey, don't diodes have capacitance?  LOL!