Peter Sumaruck's "Zero Amp Tech" a Rotoverter?

[sterlinga]

http://pesn.com/2008/11/30/9501504_ZeroAmpTech-demo/

Zero Amp Tech demonstration reflections - Peter Sumaruck has captured the imagination of many with his demonstration alleging 0.05 Watts input from a genset powering five motors (4000 Watts) output through his modified modified variable AC motor controller.  However, a New Energy Congress assessment gives reason for skepticism. (PESN; Nov. 30, 2008)

See also our general index page at:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Pete's_%22Zero_Amp%22_Electronics

Sterling

[TinselKoala]

"Reason for skepticism?"

Indeed. What I'd like to know is just what "reason for credulity" there ever was, in this fairy tale.

This quote from Sterling's report pretty much sums things up:

"Pete was not running the amp meter in series on the input, but in parallel; so the 0.241 amp reading was not accurate, but was low.  An undetermined amount of the input electricity was flowing through the telephone wire, while some (0.241 amps) was flowing through the meter.  Jim Dunn tried to get Pete to run the meter in series so that all the electricity would flow through the meter for a more accurate reading of input current, but Pete never did that while we were there.
(snip)
"Telephone wire nowadays is typically 24 gauge (ref.), which is 0.0201 of an inch in diameter (ref.).  Jim said 24-gauge wire can carry up to 10 amps before it melts.  He uses it as a "poor man's fuse" for some applications.  It could easily carry the 2-4 amps that it would take to soft start up the five motors.  When I asked Pete about this later, he said that the telephone wire was of much smaller gauge than that -- like 60 gauge .  Jim said that telephone wire would never be less than 26 gauge."

And we can see in the photos that the wire looks like standard #24 or #26 plastic-insulated wire. When Pete mentions "60 gauge" wire he clearly has no clue as to what he's talking about. In the other article #44 wire is mentioned--which, based on the demonstration Sterling saw, and the above comment, is most certainly also wrong.

An "electronics technician" hooks an ammeter up in parallel with a power source and a load, somehow doesn't blow the meter's fuse, and then uses the reading to calculate power, and then claims that power is being conveyed in wires finer than a human hair--when photos clearly show much larger wires than that.

It's so stupid it isn't even funny. How can anyone give this clown (Sumaruck, not Sterling!) any credence at all? He should be run out of town on a rail, or made to write "I will not hook my ammeter across the power supply" a hundred times on the blackboard.

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

Hi Sterling.

In future we should all consider to make sure you/any one does your  best to advise him to do an independent load test (non inductive) and have some one independently validate it with security(like black light power did). Any ways, if it is an RV, that box would be some kind of VFC and tuned circuit for the load. We have had a report of a loop that's being done with the Rv, its not stable yet, it takes allot to tune it. Ill have more details later.

This is the most we have so far. (quote form the person , we saw his set up via skype cam)
RV-AlT ->Three ph trafo in series with
alt caps in tripple flux-> 3 ph bridge ->dc caps-> Blocking diodes
one forward biased on pos leg and one reverse biased on neg leg to
more dc caps bucket brigade daisy chain -> common rails -> super cap -
>battery and inverter back to standard RV PM. Theres your looper.-end

We will have anew descriptive video for all soon.  Thanks for taking the time to sniff it out Sterling, he should of just sold ebooks on how too like water for gas and made millions over night with SECURITY.


Ash

[allcanadian]

There is only one question that we need to ask-----can the small input wires handle the start up amps of all those large AC motors? Let alone all starting at once!  NO---- there is no hope in hell those small wires would handle the amperage required, I know this as a fact from experience. So his magical box is doing something we don't understand, It's funny that there are many people who have such an ego they cannot admit there are things they do not understand. Hopefully we will understand, preferably sooner than later.

[sterlinga]

There is only one question that we need to ask-----can the small input wires handle the start up amps of all those large AC motors? Let alone all starting at once!  NO---- there is no hope in hell those small wires would handle the amperage required, I know this as a fact from experience. So his magical box is doing something we don't understand,

You need to bear in mind that he is not starting his motors normally.  Yes, if he was starting normally, in less than a second, those wires would be fried.  But he's soft starting over 2-5 seconds, and that doesn't pull that much current, mabye 5 amps at best, and those 24-gauge telephone wires can handle that much.