"Free energy" and "Overunity" We need a definition.

[Pirate88179]

@ All:

OK, here is one I am tossing out:  0 Cost energy.  This would represent all energy that is available to us at "no cost" meaning financially.  Of course, this does not mean for folks to steal energy....I can add that specifically to a definition.

@TechStuf:

I like most efficient as well.  It does not imply that the energy comes from nowhere and also, handles the stealing part.

I think I can say that my earth battery is 0 Cost energy.

I can also say that it is "most efficient" as well.  This is great, now we are getting somewhere.

Bill

[utilitarian]

I think I can say that my earth battery is 0 Cost energy.

Until the Earth is depleted of charge!  Will we lose our magnetic field then?  The magnetic field is vital to keeping some deadly radiation from reaching our planet's surface, so we really need that field to stay on.

[Digjam]

@ All:

OK, here is one I am tossing out:  0 Cost energy.  This would represent all energy that is available to us at "no cost" meaning financially.  Of course, this does not mean for folks to steal energy....I can add that specifically to a definition.

You are still using the term "energy" .. Since All Energy is "Free" you can't steal it.

I think what you are talking about is "Power" or maybe not.
Does the electric grid transmit Power? or Energy?
If you cut down a tree for firewood, is it energy? or does it contain energy, or is it just a fuel?
Surely when you burn it you have heat which IS "thermal Energy" but what was it before the fire?
Wood won't burn in a lack of oxygen , so is oxygen energy?
Do we really care what is energy or do we care more what is power, or is what we are looking for fuel?

We can all agree that whatever it is we are looking for we want that something to be abundant and
knows no national boundaries.



@Pirate
How many earth batteries would it take to"Power" my house

[Pirate88179]

@ Digjam:

Well, Nathan Stubblefield heated his home, illuminated his home and farm and ran the entire telephone system of Murry, Ky off of his earth batteries....and this was in the late 1890's.  I am not sure how many it took...but...who cares?  It was all free.  The power grid did not make it to his area until many, many years later.  That is why I am so fascinated by this device.

I respectfully disagree with your assessment that all energy is free.  This is ok as we all have our opinions and these are uncharted waters.  Try telling your opinion to your power company and see what happens.... ha ha.  I think I get what you mean though.  Heck, right now, the air we breathe is free but I would not be shocked if sometime in the near future, we have to pay an air company bill for all of the breaths we take.

Bill

[Pirate88179]

thanks for starting this topic Pirate88179! 

we definitely needed a topic like this. my brain tickles lol 

Thank you for your post.  Yes, I think it is interesting but, there may not be an agreeable solution to this dilemma. That is why I started this.  0 cost energy is all around us and we can all tap into it if we choose.

Bill