Fusionchip's Bedini Feedback to Source!!!

[Goat]

Congratulations Fausto! 

The fact that you replicated it "I simplified the circuit to be exactly like gadegtmall" as close as possible seems the key here.  I have not had any luck with mine and the only reason I can think of other than wizardry is that it's not made with the same components.

Anyways, keep picking at it, I'm looking forward to the videos

Regards,
Paul

[hoptoad]

After running for about 30 min. the motor went unstable and shut off.
I can't seem to keep a steady speed on the motor.

But I made a very interesting discovery:
I disconnected the battery and my meter still read 4.7 volts.
I had no capacitors in the circuit at all, so I couldn't account for the 4.7 volts.
I removed every piece one by one to home in on the power source.
The ground off my scope was needed. 

I am using a   TIP150 NPN Transistor. 
(I tested other NPN transistors and they worked also. but this one gets the highest voltage)
I discovered that if you connect the collector to ground and the emitter to some type of antenna,
you will get a voltage between the collector and emitter.
The collector is the positive and the emitter is the negative, the base isn't used.
The collector and emitter of a transistor can be used to make a negative resistance oscillator,
so this must have something to do with that as well.

Here is a link for those that are interested in the Negister:
http://jlnlabs.online.fr/cnr/negosc.htm

Maybe this is were the excess power in these systems is coming from.
When I placed a capacitor across it I built a 5.45 volt charge in a few minuites.
The type of antenna is important, keep trying different things for it.
I wonder if this could be used to power a Joule Thief?

This finding may be the start of a whole new topic.

That's a very interesting observation Abbarue.

I'm not quite sure though from your description how you have your transistor and antennae? connected.

Any chance of posting a diagram, with a little more descriptive information.? You've certainly got my curiosity roused.
Having personally performed many experiments with inductive circuits over the years, I am inclined to think that induction is not in itself a pathway to FE.
However white noise converted to electricity via silicon (or any other semi-conductor) junctions may be another ball game altogether.

Cheers ...  P.S. Starting a new topic thread seems like a good idea to me.

[nievesoliveras]

for desperation and happiness and before the reality drops in I will say here: I DID IT. EUREKA!!!!!!!!!!

I simplified the circuit to be exactly like gadegtmall with one Sk3606 on the positive of the battery and another one on the collector of the transistor. No extra parts anywhere. Transistor MJE3055T and 1uf cap at the base of the transistor. I am using only a small hard-drive magnet (it has the shape of a boomerang and has a metal plate glue to it - a shield?). I put the magnet as per gadegtmall advice, 1/4 of the fan surface only. I tried a few places until the voltage stopped dropping.

It has been running for the last 4 hours with no absolute change in voltage, except that it seams that it is going up but definitely not going down. I already recorded two short videos to document the phenomena and will create more as the night progresses. Some pictures of the magnet on the fan is here.

I will also try later another video where I will show the exact same setup where it will NOT WORK but this time I will use another fan and not touch the fan with the magnet positioned correctly. This way I will be able to show how the battery goes down in voltage so I can show "how I know" that it is working. Make any sence?

I am so frustated with my previous success and total failure right after that sometimes I start thinking that I never had a success to start with, but no I do think now that I did it before and I am doing right now.

Fausto.

Congratulations @plengo !!!!!

Jesus

[plengo]

the circuit ran until 5am with no voltage drop at all (I just woke up to drink some water). The opposite, it increased the big battery by 0.01v and the SLA another 0.01v. Again went to sleep.

7am woke up and look at my "baby" and it was, by my surprised, stopped. Voltage was rested at the initial voltage plus the winning 0.01v on both batteries. At least that made me very happy. I gave a fan a spin and surprisingly enough it would not spin for more than 5 seconds. NOTHING CHANGED, but the fan refuses to run. Hmmmmm!!!!??

So, I changed a little bit the resistance of the potentiometer at the base of the transistor until it would spin without stopping. Went to sleep another hour. Woke up at 8am and voltage dropped on the big battery 0.01v and on the SLA another 0.03v. I am pissed.

So before go to work I let the battery rest and voltage came back to where I was yesterday before the eureka moment and tunned it back to my best as of yesterday. I left it running. I am glad I record at least three videos before going to sleep and after 8am this morning! So I am not craizy!!!

Something is very strange about how it runs in the night just fine but as soon as the sun comes up it changes. It could be the breadboard giving bad contatcts (very plausible since the fan vibrates the table). Or my cats go there and put their paws on the fan but that would not explain why it would not run at all in the morning with everything unchanged.

@gadgetmall did you have any of this before?

Fausto.

[Hoppy]

I've now made a couple of changes to my setup. One is changing the feedback diode from an IN4007 to an old 'top hat' type heavy duty diode more like the SK diode. I checked out the spec on the SK diode and matched up as well as I could. The other change is to fit an old germanium type diode between the transistor base and emitter. This has enabled me to reduce the speed of the fan considerably without it cutting out. I'm now running under 200 RPM which I could not do easily before this mod. The net result of these changes is that I've managed to hold voltage for 8 hours running at about 15mA. It will need a lot longer running like this before I can start getting excited but it is a good improvement on my previous setup.

After this current run I'm thinking about tidying up my wiring by removing the croc clips and re-wiring using heavy duty ultra low resistance Hi-Fi type oudspeaker wire. If the radiant is working its magic on the battery, this according to John Bedini's / Tom Beardon's theory should enhance the transfer of radiant energy to the battery. I hope my next post can start with 'Eureka' but I'm not holding my breath!

Hoppy