STEORN is NOT DEAD!!! Go check their website NOW !!! WWW.STEORN.COM

[esaruoho]

Bulbz this is just that old 2007 july non-show of a london steorn show  that got held up at the last minute by the heat of the lamps affecting the bearings.
and lo and behold, Steorn have a set of magnetic friction-free bearings coming out.

Look.. the way i see it is this.
anyone releasing anything at all, especially releasing information of a proof-of-concept device that proves a principle that the engineers are only slowly becoming aware of, is going to make mistakes. the most common mistakes are not being capable of stringing together a readable sentence, and getting frustrated at the checks and balances checks and re-checks of "measure! with this! this way! you didnt do it right!" and the ridicule   hauled at them on _every_ _single_ _forum_.
then there's failures at marketing, failures at making good on showing functioning devices - and if then, mistakes and failures due to communicational issues and time constraints. not knowing how to promote yourself - shaky camera recordings, either too densely technical narratives or purely sales speeches. and all to a crowd that either believes every single claim, or disputes _every_ _single_ _claim_ and takes part in slandering attacks of said people + company, and causes a shitstorm of feedbacking negative opinions on this or that thing.

everyone believes that :this company: or :that person: should conduct themselves differently, or should have conducted themselves differently if they are bankrupt or dead,  but nobody can change a single thing about someone else's past and present and future actions, so all we get are basically fucking useless forums full of people being against this or that bunches of people, and then even instances where i have to look at this thread and see Paul attacking Hans and Hans attacking Paul, both convinced that the other is something that he isn't.

We should be looking at what is being said, how is it notable, what does it mean, what is the claim, how does it correspond with other bits and pieces of knowledge we have available either in electrodynamics, quantum electrodynamics, physics or the natural sciences.. and then for once stop calling eachother shitheads and actually do some constructive work as to piecing together the _various_ _magnetic_ _claims_ that we have, starting from Ed Leedskalnin to Howard Johnson, to Walter Russell, John Keely, Wilhelm Reich, Karl Schappeller, Viktor Schauberger - and then onto the most contested people such as John Bedini and Joseph Newman - who all have made claims as to how magnetism can be used to accomplish this that and the other.

So instead of wasting 300 billion pages of forumthreads about this or that person's ties to this or that funding, or this or that information about this company going down or that company being bankrupt, or character-assassination of this or that person, be it bearden, newman, meyer, bedini or anyone the fuck at all -- we could actually start piecing together the grand claim.

[AB Hammer]

I don't think people can continue to prevent the inevitable, global "free energy."

PL

Greetings Paul

I agree with this statement, but when I comes to Steorn. I have seen interviews, half whited attemps on youtube and I even know someone that worked for Steorn. But I have never seen a running device, a video of a running device, or have heard creditable evidence of a running device. Sorry, but I have my doubts. And how many years has its been since the first reported claim?

[PaulLowrance]

I believe people in the SPDC or whatever it's called have seen a video of working Orbo. Anyways, it's very easy that Steorn has spent a lot of time improving the Orbo. Maybe it's now solid-state. Or maybe they ran into some stability issues, and have now fixed the problems. There are a lot of possibilities. No need for some people to be trashing Steorn!

PL

[Bulbz]

I was basiacally showing support for Hans Vonlieven, calling him a liar is out of order. As I was enlightened in an earlier post by esaruoho, one of the incedents was when the show was cancelled because of overheating of the bearings due to lighting. I'm not personally attacking Steorn.

What I will say is....

If Steorn are so positive they have a working device, then why don't they build it and sell it ?. From what I understand, Steorn ask for 20 grand in return for instructions on how to build  the device, but then you have to buy the materials yourself.

For 20 grand + materials + build time, I want a more proven concept that is going to be at least reliable enough to not fail eavery time somebody switches on the lights !.

Sorry guys but for 20 grand from potential customers, they should be building a a ready to run, stable product. I know where I'd rather put my money.

As I stated before on OU.com, whatever ideas I come up with, I will release them as strictly open source. I don't like the idea of myself selling a few diagrams on a piece of paper, for a huge sum of money. Plus I'm only in it for the science, the good of mankind, and above all, FUN 

Peace brothers and sisters...
I rest my case !

[Bulbz]

I was basically showing support for Hans Vonlieven, calling him a liar is out of order. As I was enlightened in an earlier post by esaruoho, one of the incedents was when the show was cancelled because of overheating of the bearings due to lighting. I'm not personally attacking Steorn.

What I will say is this....

If Steorn are so positive they have a working device, then why don't they build it and sell it ?. From what I understand, Steorn ask for 20 grand in return for instructions on how to build  the device, but then you have to buy the materials yourself.

For 20 grand + materials + build time, I want a more proven concept that is going to be at least reliable enough to not fail every time somebody switches on the lights !.

Sorry guys but for 20 grand from potential customers, they should be building a a ready to run, stable product. I know where I'd rather put my money.

As I stated before on OU.com, whatever ideas I come up with, I will release them as strictly open source. I don't like the idea of myself selling a few diagrams on a piece of paper, for a huge sum of money. Plus I'm only in it for the science, the good of mankind, and above all, FUN 

Peace brothers and sisters...
I rest my case !