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I believe people in the SPDC or whatever it's called have seen a video of working Orbo.

Of course not!. As far as I know, NOBODY saw a "working" Orbo to date....

Anyways, it's very easy that Steorn has spent a lot of time improving the Orbo. Maybe it's now solid-state. Or maybe they ran into some stability issues, and have now fixed the problems. There are a lot of possibilities. No need for some people to be trashing Steorn!
PL

Yes, no need for trashing them.  Also, no need for you to trash certain members expressing their opinions, too....
Hans is not a liar! He just expressed his opinion  (and common sense) wrt. to the known FACTS about Steorn's claims.
And he was right about tons of not fulfilled promises made by them.... And I am not going to search the public-written-confirmed facts about the issue, so I guess I am the liar, too...

I was an (original "SPDC") member. I quit (not signed a second level "NDA") because of many (GOOD!) reasons....

You were not involved with the happenings? Here's a short schedule that you may have missed....

18?/19th of Sept., 2006 Steorn's revolutionary add in The Economist
19 th of Sept. 2006 start of their public forum
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A call to the Jury of capable experts to validate the claims...
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early Dec. 2006,  Steorn's famous party...
Mid Dec, some of the ideas about the tech. surfaced.... The Kinetica toy,  magnetic viscosity, the The Noether's theorem theory & exceptions... The Start/Stop technology, the "fast in slow out" (and vice-versa mathematical) concepts,... the idea about forming a group of the dedicated tinkerers...etc...
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March, 2007 - SPDC officially started
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4th of July, 2007 - the London Kinetica DEMO....
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March, 2008. Start of the new, inner circle, the "OrboSphere group"
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Feb., 2009 (4th) refreshed Web pages, New claims....
Feb the 7th, 2009 ... Original SPDC members (who were not signing a new "NDA" in the past 8 months, were banned from the "SKDB" without even a "Goodbye, folks"...)...
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I'd like to comment at least at some of the issues (the dotted lines...), but....

The recent happening tells a lot....

No demo, No "Jury" verdict....
No FE.

An USB hall sensor probe, and a magneto-mechanical test setup are the result of all the stuff happening so far.
Hey, we (the SPDC) voted for a design (shape & colours) of that probe long time ago...! 

And I was one of the first originators of the idea to produce a good, cheap hall probe... Back in those Steorn's public forum pages....


Silly. That's it, folks.

[ChileanOne]

Whoever is saying that Steorn is charging 20K for teaching anyone to build an Orbo is full of BS.

STeorn charges nothing to anyone, and not even for the licenses.

[AB Hammer]

Whoever is saying that Steorn is charging 20K for teaching anyone to build an Orbo is full of BS.

STeorn charges nothing to anyone, and not even for the licenses.

Greetings ChileanOne

Ah yes the licenses. Do you know what that means?  It means that you are working for him and if you make the final breakthrough Steorn takes it over. How about that for a deal?
This is of course my opinion for I have not read the licenses but in the real world if you work for someone and make an invention you employer can take it, if work related, and sometimes it doesn't have to be work related.

[Bulbz]

Whoever is saying that Steorn is charging 20K for teaching anyone to build an Orbo is full of BS.

STeorn charges nothing to anyone, and not even for the licenses.

Perhaps I got the wrong end of the stick, but I thought I saw that quoted somewhere in this thread. But thats no reason to go slagging me off, I'm not full of bullshit, and never have been. I'm just going by what I read !.

Next time, think before you slag me off !

[ChileanOne]

Perhaps I got the wrong end of the stick, but I thought I saw that quoted somewhere in this thread. But thats no reason to go slagging me off, I'm not full of bullshit, and never have been. I'm just going by what I read !.

Next time, think before you slag me off !

I apology for the misunderstanding, I did not mean to slag you, I was aware you were quoting someone else, and whoever is, is spreading a complete lie (BS in my book), and to him I was targeting my disgust.

Sorry Bulbz.