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ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

Started by Tito L. Oracion, February 06, 2009, 01:45:08 AM

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forest

Quote from: wattsup on October 01, 2009, 08:46:22 AM
@Tito L. Oracion

OK, thank-you for your kind reply. I understand everything you are saying and it does make sense. Of course it makes more sense for you since you are the maker, but I really do understand the general idea.

Funny you should mention those Tesla patents which are variations that also include the Tesla Ozone Patent No. 568,177. That patent is a prime step that any OUer should know about as a basic method. The only part is the end usage to concentrate the high voltage into lower voltage higher amperage. That is where the battle will be won.

So creating a short (Relay, Switch, Rotary, Transistor, Mosfet - or other) over a DC supply and disconnecting that via one or more high inductance coils, one or more charge capacitors, one or more (series or parallel) working transformers and you can do what Tesla always said did not waste energy, and that is working with damped waves permits you to return most all the energy back to the source. I think that is what you mean by using small energy. You can use small energy at a time, but you can use bigger energy and give most of it back and that consumes the same as the small energy. lol

Meaning, you can run a very small circuit using a battery and consuming only .1 amp at 12 volts and never returning this energy back, or, you can use 12 volts at 4 amps with the Tesla method and put back into the battery 3.9 amps. Both ways you are consuming only 1.2 watts but the second way you are running a much bigger device hence you have a better chance of getting more output. Makes perfect sense.

So I gather by indicating an inverter, your main device output is 12 vdc with good enough amperage to run an inverter and get your 220vac at 5 amps 50hz output. OK sounds logical but only if the 12vdc production is clean and steady otherwise most commercial inverters will go into an automatic shut-down. Hmmmm.

Also, regarding wasting time on the TPUs, in a very big way you are right that it is a waste of time because anyways, we will never be able to prove whatever we make, even if it follows the style of an SM TPU, will be exactly like the original, but again, who cares. Some are close enough and I am also especially working on and learning from the FTPU. But it does not stop us from doing other things in between. lol


wattsup,

While you are perfectly right about returning most of energy back to source in such way as to not deplete it but recharge, that will not explain all those devices which are self-runners with power source disconnected after first kick-start - vide Kapanadze device

forest

There is another excerpt from Tesla interview which surprised me.

"Counsel

And would it also be necessary to provide for the high potentials of the order of which you have named in order to insure maximum direct currents and minimum electromagnetic wave radiation?

Tesla

No sir.  The currents are proportionate to the potentials which are developed under otherwise equal conditions.  If you have an antenna of a certain capacity charged to 100,000 volts, you will get a certain current; charged to 200,000 volts, twice the current.  When I spoke of these enormous potentials, I was describing an industrial plant on a large scale because that was the most important application of these principles, but I have also pointed out in my patents that the same principles can be applied to telegraphy and other purposes.  That is simply a question of how much power you want to transmit.

Counsel

In Colorado, which did you use?

Tesla

I used the so-called Tesla transformer.  I did not have the high frequency machine with [me] which I could develop as much energy for the experiments, but with my transformer I could get any amount of energy I
needed.  That is why I used the transformer."


If that is not a statement about free energy then it must be a lapse of speech...

wattsup

Quote from: forest on October 01, 2009, 08:53:42 AM

wattsup,

While you are perfectly right about returning most of energy back to source in such way as to not deplete it but recharge, that will not explain all those devices which are self-runners with power source disconnected after first kick-start - vide Kapanadze device

That would be the next step once your device works without lowering battery voltage, then using a high uf capacitor would be a choice to start removing the battery from the system.

Would the following be correct or possible as my EE acumen stinks.

If I take good uf capacitor and send on side through a zenor diode of let's say 5 vdc to run a circuit. The zenor gives the 5vdc from the capacitor to the circuit and the capacitor falls to let's say 2 or 1 vdc. The circuit then returns this energy as very high voltage back to the capacitor bringing the voltage back up and permitting the zenor to provide a next 5 vdc to the circuit. So the question is can a zenor diode be used in this manner. Almost like a voltage gain sensing diode relay. if so, man, that would be great.

Maybe we are detracting from @Tito's subject. Hmmmmm. Always happens. lol

ronotte

@ Tito,

I apologize for intruding into you thread: of course I am following your very interesting project!
anyway if any problem just let me know as I could create a new thread  (I did not that in order do not create too many threads).

@Wattsup

Hey, nice to meet you again.....always intrigued by retro-engineering TPU?  To answer your question, Yes what you posted is exactly what I did...and it works. To cut it short I checked TRUE the following:

- Presence of a 'near field' (around the Tx unit and within a space of about 1.5 meters) where the Maxwell equations does apply.

- Presence of a 'far field' ( distance > 3 meters from Tx) where the Maxwell equations does not fully describe the EM behavior

- In the latter point I have been unable to shield the Rx unit: if it does go in synch (with Tx unit) it stays synched whatever shielding action you do!

- The Tx and Rx unit even if connected only trough ground does appear like fully connected and if you load the RX you obtain a DECREASE on the load that the TX poses on the input exciter.

- The additional power gathered by the Rx is amazing: where does it comes from...the environment?

The minimum topology tested makes it difficult to deal with data so I am building additional Rx units to check easily on the power I/O numbers.

ronotte

Tito L. Oracion

Quote from: otto on October 01, 2009, 02:23:35 AM
Hello all,

@Tito

why to let the TPU die?

Dont you see it?

Its the same principle as you use it. Its "only" a conversion device like Tesla, Mory, Sweet....and others had done it many years ago and now we are again "inventing" them. To say it in this way.

So, I see no reason to stop my work on a TPU. And I will NEVER give up because I see no reason why to stop.

Otto

hi sir good day

well sir that is just a wild advise, because tpu the way i see it is an old topic that wasting precious time of its fans, well i'm one of them  ;D

but sometimes, for me it is better to do some work originated by yourself because it gives a better pleasure.  :)

i even made a tpu version of mine, well it works but its too much complicated and i believe sm's design is not the same as mine. because my tpu works even in inverted position  ;D i don't know why? lol   ;D  ;D  ;D