Overunity.com Archives is Temporarily on Read Mode Only!



Free Energy will change the World - Free Energy will stop Climate Change - Free Energy will give us hope
and we will not surrender until free energy will be enabled all over the world, to power planes, cars, ships and trains.
Free energy will help the poor to become independent of needing expensive fuels.
So all in all Free energy will bring far more peace to the world than any other invention has already brought to the world.
Those beautiful words were written by Stefan Hartmann/Owner/Admin at overunity.com
Unfortunately now, Stefan Hartmann is very ill and He needs our help
Stefan wanted that I have all these massive data to get it back online
even being as ill as Stefan is, he transferred all databases and folders
that without his help, this Forum Archives would have never been published here
so, please, as the Webmaster and Creator of these Archives, I am asking that you help him
by making a donation on the Paypal Button above.
You can visit us or register at my main site at:
Overunity Machines Forum



First electrical power output from a Pyramid

Started by hartiberlin, January 18, 2006, 05:32:45 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 4 Guests are viewing this topic.

spacetrax

Hi,
I have to contradict you, Thomas said that the graphith electrodes must NOT be in the salt water at all. See: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,695.msg60151.html#msg60151
Cheers!

Quote from: hartiberlin on November 22, 2007, 08:56:14 PM
@Tigrotto,
yes, the sand is filled up into the whole copper tubbing,
so the graphite rods are inside the tube all covered with sand,
maybe not just the top of them, where the wires are connected...
this we still need to ask Mr. Traw?ger..
But the saltwater is only injected into the left hole until it drops
out at the right hole, so only the lower parts of the graphite rods
stand in the wet sand-saltwater.
He said too much saltwater is not good...
Just a bit wet sand. So this is basically a galvanic cell and produces around
0.7 to 1 Volt DC voltage.
Maybe this is  just an energizer voltage so the LC circuit resonates..
but normally you need some kind of  active device like a transistor to
control the oscillation...
I don?t yet understand how this thing generates DC voltage at the output
and also this high....19 Volts.. andso much power...

Well, we need to research this.

Regards, Stefan.

pese

Quote from: hartiberlin on November 22, 2007, 08:56:14 PM
@Tigrotto,
yes, the sand is filled up into the whole copper tubbing,
so the graphite rods are inside the tube all covered with sand,
maybe not just the top of them, where the wires are connected...
this we still need to ask Mr. Traw?ger..
But the saltwater is only injected into the left hole until it drops
out at the right hole, so only the lower parts of the graphite rods
stand in the wet sand-saltwater.
He said too much saltwater is not good...
Just a bit wet sand. So this is basically a galvanic cell and produces around
0.7 to 1 Volt DC voltage.
Maybe this is  just an energizer voltage so the LC circuit resonates..
but normally you need some kind of  active device like a transistor to
control the oscillation...
I don?t yet understand how this thing generates DC voltage at the output
and also this high....19 Volts.. andso much power...

Well, we need to research this.

Regards, Stefan.

Wenn der Sand bie Oberkante Grafit-elektroden eingef?llt wurd (wodurch auch die st?be ihren Halt bekommen!) wird auch ds Salzwsser unbedingt umd immer die komplette Elektrode benetzen , da das wasser den Sand hinaufkriecht - Osmose).
Also nur soviel Salzwasser bis ein ?berschuss herausl?uft ?
Aber das sind ja Dinge , die man probieren kann!.


HATTEN DIE ?GYPTER SCHON STROM ?

Diese Frage wird nun plausiebler !!?

Wer erinnert sich nicht an die Darstellungen dieser riesen Glasballons die jemand mitsichf?hrte ?
Wohl ein Metallgl?hwendel drin ??
Vakuum , geht nicht in dieser Gr?sse , ABER druckloser Stickstoff.

Ein Kabel (Schlauch?) ist angeschlossen und f?hr zu einen kleinen Kasten !!
Ist hier die Empfangspule?- die dann nat?rlich innerhalb der "grossen" Pyramide auch arbeiten k?nnte !  (Nat?rlich rein spekulativ ! Wenn die Frage erstmal DA ist , kann man alles exerimentell erproben !! Die Theorie , kann NUR GEDANKENANSTOSS zu EXPERIMENTEN sein. (So auch
bei Thomas Traw?ger , wie er sich mehrmals ?usserte)




Pese
Skype Member: pesetr (daily 21:00-22:00 MEZ (Berlin) Like to discussing. German English Flam's French. Special knowledges in "electronic area need?
ask by messey, will help- so i can...

Thomas_Trawoeger

hello to all..

First, let me say thousand Thanks to Stefan Hartmann for his great work.. I hope, the plan is now better understandable to all non-german speaking guys out there  ;D

Stefan spoke about downs in our webproject. I can swear everybody, that the website wasn?t down any minute till now, and it will stay online the next few month. We only change the scripts, and so it could be possible, that the website is down only by minutes (for up- and downloading scripts and content.

My new garage is prepared with cameras and tool, and so we can go ahead with our project just in time. We will finish our website this night, and so it could be, that you can find the first step of construction tomorrow evening in our website.

in the first step, we will give you the list of the first needed materials to organize.

If it?s allowed, i use the Stefan translations even in my website ( i prefer to ask the Content Owner  ;)

Maybe Stefan could help me some time with small translation works, because his english is absolutely perfect in technical belongs!

In my last Post her, i pleased you, not to subscribe in my website, because the scripts don?t work proper.
This was not believed from 21! (twentyone) guys  ;D

I got some critics, why i opened the registration, if its not working.
well, guys, for to test something, you have to put it online for testing.
It was my fault, to tell you the domain, before everything was working proper.
So let me say "SORRY" for my Mistake. I pronounced the website to early, but i did this only, to show you my will to do it.

I hope, that in latest 24-30 Hours everything runs quite well, and you can foregive me this fault....
Have a happy day
Thomas

PS. I?m a little sad, that some people wich are reading here didn?t spend any word to the community. Ther are some guys from Thailand and US tell me great storys, but noone will give here any sentence...
It?s not fair, to get informations from this Site, but stay silent, if some success appeares.
I will remember to this guys, and i am not shure, if i will invite you to my website  :-\

Tigrotto

@Thomas
@Stefan
Congratulations also from me to Stefan .
I did the drawing, he did the corrections, Thomas approuved.
All of us , I  hope , read the Stefan's translation.
We have to solve two  great misunderstandings , hopefully, using the valuable help from Thomas, as developer:

First misunderstanding: The low end of graphite rod : In water-salted or outside the salted-water?
There are two opposite sentence here, in the translated text:
The first one:
Bore at the right side a small hole approx.  2mm diameter into the copper tube.
This hole must be somewhat more below than the Graphiterod`s end !!!
(distance at least 2mm) :
The second one:
SLOWLY inject saltwater until the Graphiterods are standing with their lower ends in the saltwater-sand solution.
Comment:
The first sentence meant : the lowest end of the Graphite rods are ABOVE the salted-water LEVEL. So that NO ELECTRICAL CONTACT GRAPHITE-SALTWATER.
The second sentence meant: the lowest end of the Graphite rods are INSIDE ( IMMERSED) in  saltwater . So that there must be an  ELECTRICAL CONTACT GRAPHITE-SALTWATER.
We are kindly asking Thomas and Stefan to clarify this possible misunderstanding.

The second "obvious misunderstanding " is  regarding the 25mmx140mm 8 2 plates) capacitor. One plate connected to pyramid frame+Earth, the second its plate connected where: Let's take a look at the translation of two sentence below:
The first sentence says:
A small plate capacitor (approx. 25x 140 mm)where only the plus pole is going through and the negative pole comes from the pyramid frame  can multiply the power output of the pyramid.
The second sentence says:
(Note: The negative pole must be connected from the pyramid frame to this capacitor to the other capacitor plate.)
Comments:
From the first sentence is not obvious " only th plus pole is going through": What does it mean?
From  the second sentence: What does it mean " to the other capacitor plate": Who is this " the other capacitor plate"? Is the same capacitor
( 25mmx140mm , or is the 10 plates great capacitor???
A thing is obvioud: one of the 2 plates of this 25mmx140mm capacitor is to be connected to the frame+Earth.
The second its plate is to be connected where?
Needless to say that I talked with some others of our friends here on private post and they also have the same doubts! this is not only my misunderstanding ( however, justified!)
Thanks in advance,
Tigrotto

freecell

Hi Thomas,

did you ever have test to take copper-tubes instead of steel-Cuppers for the Pyramidframe?

Coppers-Tubes and Plates are more easy to soldering als to welding the Steel-Tubes.

Greeting, freecell