First electrical power output from a Pyramid

[The Eskimo Quinn]

ok so I'm no longer the strangest person on the site anymore

[duff]

I have stopped construction on my 2nd frame for the moment NOT because I don't know how to overcome the construction issues but because I having difficulties in beliving the guy when continually running into inconsistencies in his construction instructions or lack of details thereof. It's hard to invest more time and money in something when doubts keep creeping in.

Here is another problem with Thomas's V12 frame construction instruction.
Thomas states:

Now you keep the square-tubes (2pc. with 1000mm) and give them to 2 opposite sides of the plate. Cut 2 pc. of square-tubes to 960mm and give them to the plate to create a square.

Weld this now only with a few points to fix the square, and control that the square is in correct angle of 90? on all 4 Corners :-)

If anything is correct, weld the Corners on the Corners complete. (It doesn?t matter if you burn the plate Grin)

Control the angles after welding again, and check, that the square have "floor contact" to the plate.

The next step is a little bit more complicated, because we have to find the right cutting angle, and the right lenght for the next 4 Squaretubes. To keep the whole lengt of this tubes, we have to give away the 20mm of the groundframe. On the other side, we have to measure exactly 1000mm to the 3/8" Tube in the Center of the plate.

1. In order to cut away the frame with a grinder you have to do this prior to assembly as I've shown in the first picture.

2. When you make the cutout then you have one edge of the joint that is cut away where the tubing makes a bend. The metal there is very thin as shown in picture 2. If I tried to weld the joint where those two meet I would burn throught it with my wire welder.

The point is that joint can't be made like that. Both pieces of tubing need to be the same length and cut at 45? where the joint is made.

3. Thomas states: "we have to give away the 20mm of the groundframe". NOT CORRECT. The diagonal that runs out of that corner is 25mm wide (on edge) AND in order to make the weld on the bottom of the tubing you certainly have to give youself some space to work

I ask Thomas no less than 4 time for pictures of that joint and his final response to me was if I didn't know how to do it I should look at what others were doing. Well it had nothing to do with not knowing how to do it but rather his instruction made no sense.

Note: the pics are of scrap tubing I used to make this point.


-Duff

[neptune]

@duff. I am sorry to see that you are having construction problems, and I do not pretend I can offer an easy answer. To me, the most significant thing said about the frame, was that it was the inside surface of the outer "coating" that was critical regarding dimensions and angles. I took this to mean that the sole function of the steel frame was to hold the plasterboard in place.Therefore, I used angle-iron throughout. I cut my diagonals to 1 metre length, and shaped the ends, and added the base frame afterwards. I suggest you do the same, diagonals first, then make some cardboard box section which is easy to cut, and make a mock-up.
                 At this time of year, I find it hard to be optimistic about anything. The only bright thing is the slow lengthening of the hours of daylight. My doubts about the pyramid are real, but maybe different to yours. My first doubt is about the high internal resistance of the device. Assuming, as we must for lack of better info, that the same electrons flow in the internal circuit as flow in the external circuit, then those electrons have to flow through air for, I would guess, about 35 centimetres. In a car spark plug, it takes about 25.000 volts to persuade  electrons to jump an air gap of about one millimeter. Anyone seen evidence of these Megavolts? Maybe its just the January Blues., I think he got about the same results as the rest of us, and decided it would be easier to let us do the work for him. It was even too much trouble for him to help us. At first I thought TT was a legend in his own lifetime. Turns out he was just a legend in his own mind.

[duff]

Neptune,

Yes, you are correct - the inside surface is important. - I didn't know you used angle iron. To me that would make construction easier...

My biggest obstacle right now is not the construction - it's believing in the instruction set we've been given. For now I'll shelf the 2nd build.

I ran many tests yesterday and now believe that my energy pickup unit (EPU) has not been fully functional.

What I did was build a test setup with copper tubing and a couple of 90 degree elbows. I filled the tubes with sand and  cut a couple of carbon rods, one 85mm - the other 90mm and stuck them in the sand. Added 2 ml of 5% salt solution and watched the DC voltage with reference to the copper tubing.

One carbon rod became positive and the other negative (millivolt range) and they maintained the polarity difference overnight.

My  EPU does not have the same polarity difference with reference to the copper tubing and so I believe it has not been functioning. So I've spent time today replacing the carbon rod hangers I was using with fine wire from a flyback transformer. I'm going to solder them in place and the wire will give them the flexibility to move while filling with sand. If this thing does start to produce anything significant of course I'll have to replace that wire with something heavier.

My idea is to use the small millivolt potential, with reference to the copper frame, as a guage to find the energy focal point in the pyramid. If this will work we could determine both height and direction for alignment and at least have a frame of reference to build from. At this point I'll take any voltage that is consistent.

I hope tapier21, in the yahoo group, continues to show some results. The main problem with the info he is sharing is the translation. I wish someone would translate his posts - the translation engines just aren't cutting it.


-Duff

[Tigrotto]

I told you many times!
You're loosing time here!!!
No TT no pyramid ( if this was not a story!!!!) .
Tigrotto