Stanley Meyer Explained

[h20power]

Hello Everyone,


With the year winding down it would seem that next year now has the promise of bringing this technology to the market place. Mostly I have been playing the waiting game this year in trying to get some parts built for me and have had to wait for over six months now to get the bobbins for the newest VIC transformer to be made for me. I feel I have most of the science figured out but can only get the unit working for a small amount of time as the transformers tend to burn out on me. I am currently trying to solve this problem and have no idea how much time that is going to take. Basically I am finding out that understanding the science behind this technology and building it correctly are two different things but they can't do without one another for without the understanding of the science behind the technology I would have never figured how to get the voltages up to the exciter array.


Now I have built and tested many different versions of Meyer's VIC transformer that being the, figure 3-25, figure 6-1, and the 10-4 versions of Meyer VIC transformers. I like the figure 6-1 the best thus far as it is the least confusing of the bunch when it comes time to wire it all up and from a business perspective would have the least amount of labor cost attached to it when going into mass production. A lot of these pictures I have never shown anyone before but I do so now for those whom think I have only tested out one of Meyer's many different types of transformers found in his patents. For as you can see I have been very busy working on all of the many types of transformers found in the patents to include the donut transformer (not shown).


The goal in doing all of this is to figure out this technology by actually doing the work and testing it so that I would allow myself to see with my own eyes just what they do when tested and experimented with in the real world.


Now I went back and re-read this entire thread to see if I missed anything or have some things changed with new understanding and the answer it yes, somethings have changed, but the over all concept(s) have remained the same for the most part as it's all about ionizing the atoms that make up the water molecules. I started this thread as a challenged to get people building this technology and sadly not many if any stepped up to the plate to build and test their own designs. Also when I started this thread I was a believer in Open Source and that too has changed as I no longer believe in Open Source for it would have everyone building "One-Offs" which is the most expensive way to go about building anything and thus would leave many in this world without this technology. I looked over the many people whom have come and gone since this thread was started and the many that just felt I owed them something and/or just came here to pick a fight with me and will have to say I have changed a lot since then, hopefully for the better.


A lot of links no longer work due to the site it was on has shut down since the time this thread was started. In fact many people are no longer working on this technology as it turned out to be far harder than they ever imagined to get all the "Why's" answered. I still have quite a few "Why's" that need to be answered but I feel I have answered enough of them to get parts of the technology up and running once I get all the parts I need to make them work.


In time I will need everyone's help as this technology will be just starting off.
Take care all and I hope this next year to be the one this technology finally makes it to the market place.
Ed

[Dog-One]

Well Ed, I'm a little confused.

1.  You don't believe in OpenSource, yet you post publicly here at overunity.com.
2.  You want to build something that can be mass produced and sold where?
3.  You need everyone's help to get this off the ground, yet you scorn one-offs.

I sense a lot of mixed signals in your postings and very little hard-core details such as:
  * How to impedance match the coils to the cell.
  * How to tune the system once assembled.
  * Where to get off-the-shelf parts.
  * How concepts like Coulomb's Law apply to splitting water molecules.
  * Electrical schematics and scope shots showing the exact needed waveforms.

I sometimes feel this is just your hobby Ed and you have no real desire to "save the world".
I also don't feel you have the motivation to re-create this technology and share it
in a form people can immediately get their hands on and begin to replicate.
And lastly, I doubt very much you have the guts to get yourself and your
family killed over this technology.  Maybe someday you'll get lucky, get
something to work and the MiBs will offer to buy you out and you can
live happily ever after.  I know in the case of Mr. Walker, he found what
he was looking for and can now go to his grave with a smile on his face.
Myself, I'd rather be JFK'd doing what I know needs to be done.  My life
means nothing; what I take with me means everything.  Do you have
what it takes Ed?  I'm not asking you this to piss you off.  I'm asking you
this so you might take a deep look into your soul and define your purpose.

I'd like nothing better than to see you setup a complete system with ICE
and generator attached and fire this all up for the very first time on live
streaming cameras, so the whole world could see you prove this technology
out.  I'd like those streams to be so rich in detail that only a complete
idiot could not figure out what you have built.  Do it Ed, do it.  Let the
genie out of the bottle so it can never again be put back in.  Get angry.
Develop a hatred for silence, obscurity and falsehoods.  Let it all go.
Make a difference.  Make your mark in this 21st century.  And just
remember what Will Munny said in the movie Unforgiven...

   We all got it comin' kid.

[h20power]

Well Ed, I'm a little confused.

1.  You don't believe in OpenSource, yet you post publicly here at overunity.com.
2.  You want to build something that can be mass produced and sold where?
3.  You need everyone's help to get this off the ground, yet you scorn one-offs.

I sense a lot of mixed signals in your postings and very little hard-core details such as:
  * How to impedance match the coils to the cell.
  * How to tune the system once assembled.
  * Where to get off-the-shelf parts.
  * How concepts like Coulomb's Law apply to splitting water molecules.
  * Electrical schematics and scope shots showing the exact needed waveforms.

I sometimes feel this is just your hobby Ed and you have no real desire to "save the world".
I also don't feel you have the motivation to re-create this technology and share it
in a form people can immediately get their hands on and begin to replicate.
And lastly, I doubt very much you have the guts to get yourself and your
family killed over this technology.  Maybe someday you'll get lucky, get
something to work and the MiBs will offer to buy you out and you can
live happily ever after.  I know in the case of Mr. Walker, he found what
he was looking for and can now go to his grave with a smile on his face.
Myself, I'd rather be JFK'd doing what I know needs to be done.  My life
means nothing; what I take with me means everything.  Do you have
what it takes Ed?  I'm not asking you this to piss you off.  I'm asking you
this so you might take a deep look into your soul and define your purpose.

I'd like nothing better than to see you setup a complete system with ICE
and generator attached and fire this all up for the very first time on live
streaming cameras, so the whole world could see you prove this technology
out.  I'd like those streams to be so rich in detail that only a complete
idiot could not figure out what you have built.  Do it Ed, do it.  Let the
genie out of the bottle so it can never again be put back in.  Get angry.
Develop a hatred for silence, obscurity and falsehoods.  Let it all go.
Make a difference.  Make your mark in this 21st century.  And just
remember what Will Munny said in the movie Unforgiven...

   We all got it comin' kid.

You don't know me and more than likely never will so, forgive me for not wanting to prove anything to you. Honestly I simply don't view the world as most people do as I tend to look at the big picture once I am able to see it. I tested Open Source to make sure what I found out about it really was the truth about it: http://aetherforce.com/truth-open-source-inventors-perspective/
As you seem to be aware I am the last of the old guys still working on this technology now as the rest of them have moved on with their lives. Some are just tired of failing all the time, a few fill they went as far as they could go and shared it all, while others are having health problems. From my perspective only confusion has come from their work on this technology to the point of making sure no one will be able to solve this technology if they are listened too. As for me the only thing I tire of is people like you demanding me to do as you say and/or trying to force me to see your way of thinking or point of view. I no longer follow the path that is most traveled now. I don't buy into turning movie fiction into real world realities nor do I follow the old ways all that much anymore. I have a path laid before me that I am following where it leads only the creator knows but follow it I must.


I don't know of this, "Got what it takes" thing you speak of nor do I want to know as it sounds very restrictive. I'll stick with the world of reality as here I know the rules as anyone that knows much about the markets knows to build a "One-Off" cost big bucks as that is how the markets work and there simply is no getting around that in this world. In what I will be asking of everyone is simply, help this technology go into mass production so that the per unit cost is driven down so that the masses can afford to buy it.


This technology isn't like Dr. Faraday's electrolysis as it is a complex technology where things have to be built with precision. Meyer's talk of using off the shelf items simply isn't true as I have built more of his technology than most and trust me it cost a lot of money and you can't go to your local Home Depot and buy the things you need to get this technology up and running correctly. After what Don Gable showed us about Meyer's technology anyone still believing that lie is a fool. I am not going to play your game as I choose to opt out and have been out for a long time now. I post what I post to help people understand the science behind this technology, complete with just how the waveform is supposed to look like and why it is supposed to look that way. Even the theory has scientific evidence backing it up. But like most that love to argue with me they want it all handed to them on a silver platter and to that I say no. I don't have all the answers to this technology yet as I still have a lot more to learn for I have a lot of "Why's" that need answering still. Like it or not basically I am all you have got right now as Ronnie, Max, Russ, and a whole lot of others are gone now. Those that remain aren't really working on Meyer's technology are they? Most are stuck in a loop in how they are approaching this technology as they come, then go away, only to return sometime later and do it all over again for a new crowd of people.


A little news flash, anyone that tells you that the waveform that I have been showing people is incorrect will never be able to solve this technology as that waveform is fundamental to how this technology actually works. In the pdf file I posted that should be very clear now, but I take it you have never taken the time to read it, correct? There is nothing I can do about that as I can give people knowledge but I can't force them to read and/or understand it. With all of the disinformation out there it truly makes it hard for people to know just whom to trust now days doesn't it? High voltage low amps isn't that what Meyer always said? Well, I have that and thus far stand alone in doing so as far as I can tell. Ronnie fears that I am going to blow something up but fails to understand that only 0.6 mA really isn't enough to arc the distance between the plates of the exciter array, plus he also fails to understand that the voltage is being divided by all the resonant cavities in the exciter array as they are hooked up in series. So, I will not be having any, "Catastrophic Dielectric Failure,"and blow everything up, okay? As for your being a bit confused I have no desire to give you any clarity as I have posted a lot of what I know for right now and that's that, and given our past dealings with one another, take it or leave it.

[h20power]

I went over this thread and noticed that I didn't share the video interview that John Fraser took of Gunther and I while we were at the 2013 Global Breakthrough Energy Movement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6G4yIyLdY&t=61s


I have also re-looked at the video and noticed things have changed a lot in my understanding about this technology as hooking up these transformers in parallel doesn't work out to well. But the core science hasn't changed as it is the real science behind this technology as basically this technology makes it possible to hold the power of a thunderstorm in the palm of your hands. The voltages shown being applied to the excitor array has never been duplicated by anyone that I know of to this day. That cell shown in the video would need to reach 12kv or more to reach the threshold for ionization of the atoms that make up the water molecules since it has twelve resonant cavities wired in series and not 7.5kv as I thought back then. My new excitor arrays have only ten resonant cavities wired in series thus to reach the threshold for ionization would require 10kv of potential difference or more based on the information Meyer gave us in the patents where each resonant cavity will require 1kv of potential difference or more to get it working.


Now I am no longer doing any teaching of this technology as now all of my efforts and energies are being put into trying to actually bring this technology into the marketplace. So, these videos are basically the last teaching videos I will make for this technology. I also wrote a few follow up articles to this video on the Aether Force site. After dealing with Russ Gries and the moderators on RWG site and recently on the ionizationx site I have given up on trying to teach others this technology for there are just too many fakes out there pushing lies as the truth. You can't have a lie living right along side of the truth for one technology and sadly most people seem to prefer being lied to. It really shocked me that after I proved one member of the Ionizationx forum known as "Fabio/Sebosfato" to be outright lying to the entire group that his word was still being taken over mines. It was then I made up my mind that trying to teach this technology was basically a waste of time for there will always be some slick talker to come along and completely fool the masses.


So now all I am working towards is to actually bring this technology into the marketplace. I hope when the time comes that everyone on this forum will give their support for this technology, but sadly I can already see that some people will not be giving this technology their support as I asked them and got zero answers back to my questions concerning whether or not will they give their support when I move forwards with this technology. So, the "EGO" wars are still in full effect even though I have proven that I can do what no one else has been able to do with this technology as it's going on five years since that video was made and no one has duplicated those results shown in that video to this day. And note, I have move well beyond those results since then applying more than double the voltages to the excitor array than what was shown in the video interview now.
All I hope for now is the support of the people when this technology comes out as without support no technology can survive.

[h20power]

Well, RWG team gave me the full boot out of their site after I started talking about how we all must obey the rules of the markets. They didn't like it right from the start when I posted something about those whom are trying to get Russ to do things behind closed doors whom are actually the ones paying the bills as I stated that perhaps those people understand the rules of the marketplace.
Often times I wonder just where does this ignorance of how the markets actually work comes from in times like these as now to be ignorant of how these things work is a clear choice with the internet and all. All one needs to do now to understand the basics about how the markets work is run a google search and read up on it. So, this is a deliberate choice to be ignorant and I wonder what could be the motives driving their actions over there at the RWG site?

Talked to Russ and he states he had nothing to do with it and I believe him but I also know that it said I was KICKED OUT when I logged back in.


I wrote about this awhile ago when I ran into these problems in the past with a few more sites here: http://aetherforce.com/the-self-appointed-gatekeepers-soft-suppression/?relatedposts_hit=1&relatedposts_origin=78183&relatedposts_position=1

These people have no idea just what "Open Source" really is as open source only works for things that do not require any materials in which things must be built as the very second materials have to be brought then the rules of the markets kick in and the name of that game is buying in bulk. Anyone telling you otherwise is just lying to your face. Software is an example of something that can be Open Sourced as it's just a computer program or operating system. Making something as simply as a piece of paper requires materials, and machines which all cost money and are subject to supply and demand.  So to build a "One Off" is the most costly way to go about building something and this is how these people want technologies like Meyer's water for fuel tech to be put out to this world. This act would make this technology unattainable for billions of people as not only would one have to build just one of these devices but they would also have to understand how to put it to use in a safe manor that wouldn't get them killed or kill anyone else.


Why is it people have such a hard time understanding these simply concepts? I think the term "Free Energy" has been taken out of context in far too many online forums as the people in these forums think that the devices will cost them nothing to build and even less to implement into their lives. It's sad when you think about it as basically what has happened is greed has been used as a weapon against technologies like these where the very people that need it most are too greedy to want to pay for it or support someone trying to bring these technologies to the marketplace in a way that follows mass production so that it is cheap for everyone to have. I have a feeling that some well paid think tank put out these terms knowing full well that they would actually work to stop these technologies from coming out. Most forums that I have been on have fallen for these tricks hook, line, and sinker as all that is required for these tricks to work is for someone have a touch of greed about their personality. It's sad when you think about it as in these forums is supposed to be the world's brightest and they fell for these tricks put out by the powers that be to maintain their empires.


Well, I guess it is what it is, huh?