Stanley Meyer Explained

[Rwg]

It seems you are right back in the chat...  Hummm.. 

It's to bad you can't forgive and forget.

I spend the time calling you on Skype and apologizing for anything that you saw wrong.

And you still wright this stuff about me.

Well wright away.

However to the reader. Make up your own choice. Look at what I have done and you'll see I'm just a human trying to do somthing for the world

I make mestskes. However I aploigise when I do and say sorry.

It's up to that other person to forgive.

One must move. I feel sorry for you ED. You seem like your trying to do somthing good

But every time I look around I see you bashing on others. And because I know the story I call tell the truth about the past if anyone asks.

However I rather move on. As I already have.

Best of luck and please. If your not open soruce. Stop posting in places that are.

Just get that thing done and sell it. If thats your goal. Because this is a waist of time worring about everyone else.

And especially those who already forgave any thing from the past.

I will post no more.

It's now up to the reader to make there choice.

~Russ Gries

[h20power]

Russ apologizing to me isn't what was needed but the truth about how I was called a cheat trying to rip off the members of the RWG when I was doing no such thing. Like I said to you the hole you have allowed to be dug around these outright lies abut me is now too deep to fix for you now as it would more than likely result in the loss of the few remaining followers that you still have. You say I bashed people but in all truth I only told those people a truth they simply didn't want to hear and in each case I have now been proven to be right on the issues as I followed where the science lead me. But I guess you and yours aren't use to someone whom knows how to fight back for as soon as I proceed to do so you yell at the top of your lungs that I am bashing those whom attacked me. What you don't understand that everyone on this site has seen just how sick these people are whom come to attack me on the issues of Meyer's technology. They got to see it with their own eyes as this individual that followed me from your site exposed himself on this site.


But sadly you still think I bashed all those people whom rose up against me when I was just following the science and telling everyone what I had learned from the many experiments I have run on this technology. I performed these experiments showed what was going on and almost instantly envy set in among the members of the RWG site to include yourself. On your site you have the power to shut me down but here on this site you have no such power and I am finally free to tell the truth of the matter. Ever since my partner and I went to the 2013 Global BEM and showed for the very first time ever that a high voltage could be placed directly to a water bath in an exciter array. Then I put 4.2kv to the exciter array that had 12 resonant cavities wired in series which gives 350 volts per resonant cavity. I thought this amount of progress would be welcomed on your site but just the opposite happened. People came out of the woodwork to bash my partner and I and went out of their way to put down any science I shared with the world on the interview video done by John Fraser. It was around that time the you approached my partner trying to get him to leave me and join you and your team. Don't attempt to deny this as my partner will just come on this site and tell the truth of your backdoor dealings.


Sadly since all of you at the RWG rejected the science I was putting out about this technology none of you have made any real progress since 2013 while I went from 4.2kv to 9.4kv being applied to the excitor array giving a wonderful 940 volts per resonant cavity but sadly still short of Meyer's stated working conditions of 1kv or more per resonant cavity. You should have known better to come and try and save face in a place you simply could not control as you have done so many times in the past with me. On your site there is no real progress being made on Meyer's technology for none of you know much of anything about how to actually go about solving unknowns making use of the scientific method. I see nothing but endless circles on this technology at the RWG site. But it's the envy the members of your site had towards my many progresses in getting the voltage up that pushed you to mute me on your site as they demanded it and being ever so envious yourself you obliged. So, you succeeded in muting my voice and shutting out the real science about Meyer's technology on your site is what you actually accomplished because there you have the power to do so but not here.


The one thing you and many others like you whom have rose up against me in the past fear is that I just might succeed with this technology and I am telling you now that all of your fears have come true. I know it's a true slap in the face for you and all the others whom chose to mute my voice out due to your envious feelings of my work and the successes I have been having at getting the voltage up over time with my work. For if I succeed then you all know that I was right and you should have listened to me instead of shut me down at every turn in the places you all had under your control. I know that all the sites the banned me will be feeling really bad in the very near future for how they told the one trying to steer them in the right direction to go put it where the sun doesn't shine. I go out of my way to tell you and many others the truth about just what Open Source truly is and again my voice is stomped into muteness in the places where you all control the narrative but you have no power here to mute my voice as you have done so so many times in the past when you didn't like the truths I was putting out. Open Source isn't for technologies that require materials to build something for the way Open Source would have the worlds population do things is to each his own making One-Offs which as I have stated many times in the past is the most costly way to go about building anything. When materials are required to build something then the rules of the markets kick in and none of us can get around those rules as that's a crap sandwich we all are forced to eat. You see I know your fears and my solving this technology is way up high on that list of yours, but you are not alone as all sites that have banned me in the past share those same fears. As it goes to show that when the truth came knocking at your doors you did all you could to turn the truth away and prevent it from entering into your dwellings. In all truth I feel sorry for all of you as I was totally willing to allow each and everyone of you to learn this technology with me provided you do your own work as I was doing my partner called it load sharing. I wanted things to be like in a real scientific world where we all worked towards a goal and went over the science we had collected from our many experiments. But sadly no one was willing to do any work and preferred that I do all the work and simply hand over what I had learned about this technology to them free of charge. We all know how that action went down as I simply started keeping my mouth shut as not many were willing to work with me from the ground up.


It's not enough for you to apologize as you have to take corrective action in clearing my good name over and over again until the damage that you did is made whole again. How to you expect me to look past those evil things you did when you come here and try and tell everyone that I bashed people when all I really did was tell them truths they simply didn't want to hear? I remember some of those arguments when I told people that the working voltages for this technology was 1000 volts or more. People jumped all over me for saying that and when I posted the source from Meyer's own words what did I get from everyone? Silence is what I got. In fact each time I'd talk about something I'd be attacked in the same way over and over again even when I proved that the water is being separated by ionization from Meyer's own words. In fact I challenge you to show someplace where I didn't tell the truth. Think you can do that? Now there are places where I made mistakes but most of the time I was the one to catch and correct those mistakes and tell everyone that I in fact got something wrong. However I do recall someone correcting me when I was trying to figure out what "Bidirectional Wrap" meant. I had found something that showed it being wrapped in two directions at a 45° angle. He showed me that I simply had to break down the word thus Bi = two and Directional = in which direction it was to be wrapped which clearly showed me that the 45° part I had gotten incorrect as it is to be wrapped all in one direction and then back again on top of the one that was previously wrapped without breaking the wire, thus wrapping the primary in two directions. Meyer used that word to throw everyone off as it wasn't a word that could be simply looked up in a dictionary.


I think the problem is you are not use to dealing with someone whom likes to tell the truth that also has a very good memory. So to come here and openly say I have bashed people I say, "Prove it!"


Ed

[h20power]

This post is to give credit where credit is due. The person that helped me to understand what the word, "Bidirectional Wrap," meant was Jerry Volland. Most of the time he and I didn't see eye to eye on much of anything as I'd be doing actual experiments and he would be dreaming up ideas expecting me to accept those unproven ideas as fact over the my experimental observations. But none the less I am thankful for his help as that one word took me for a loop.
In my studies searching for the meaning of this word this is what I found that had the word "Bi-directional Wrap" actually used. It should be clear how I got the 45° angle mixed up in the meaning of the word.


Now getting back to Russ for a bit more clarity. I think he, Russ, would come into the middle of a fight that someone started with me and see that they were losing the fight, in which they started, badly then assume that I was bashing on them. In fact most of the time I spent at the RWG site I'd be defending myself from one fight after another people had started with me with almost no let up. I'd talk about my experimental results and some not so smart Chap would come in to tell me that I didn't see what I thought I saw. Some of these people even made entire videos and alternate threads just to bash me and/or try and disprove what I was sharing with everyone. A lot of the times when they did so it would be reviled that they didn't have the proper test equipment to read this technology, thus would be flying in the blind, or that they weren't even running any experiments at all for what they had to say was pure speculation based on some ideas they would have in their heads. Russ seemingly would not take the time to see what was actually going on and assume that I was bashing people when the truth was I was merely defending myself from fights they started with me. I hope this clears things up a bit.
Oh, and to add to insult they did ban me as just look at the next attachment. Now you know a bit more about how Russ and/or his minions actually operates for if they can't control the situation or what is known at the narrative then he or his minions (haxar) ban you.

[tinman]

Well Ed,i must say that i was a little upset with Russ my self not so long ago.

I hadnt heard from him in a long time,only to see he posted a video directed at my work i was doing at the time,pointing out mistakes he thought i had made.

If he had of been following the thread at OUR,where i was asked to take voltage and current measurements separately,then maybe he would have understood what i was showing.
Needless to say,he did the measurements incorrectly him self in his video,where he showed the phase shift between two current value's,instead of the phase relationship between voltage and current that relates to power factor.

But none the less,I still believe in Russ,and what he is doing for the community.
I also still have the up most respect for him,and would have a cuppa or beer with him any day.

We (Russ and myself) gave birth to the pulse motor build off's,which was a huge success for the years it was in play. The buldoff's just seemed to bring so many people together,and was a wack of fun.

Russ and myself use to be as thick as thieves,and it saddens me some what that we no longer seem to get together,and have a yarn.

Anyway Ed--forgive and forget--thats what i say.

Brad

[h20power]

Well Ed,i must say that i was a little upset with Russ my self not so long ago.

I hadnt heard from him in a long time,only to see he posted a video directed at my work i was doing at the time,pointing out mistakes he thought i had made.

If he had of been following the thread at OUR,where i was asked to take voltage and current measurements separately,then maybe he would have understood what i was showing.
Needless to say,he did the measurements incorrectly him self in his video,where he showed the phase shift between two current value's,instead of the phase relationship between voltage and current that relates to power factor.

But none the less,I still believe in Russ,and what he is doing for the community.
I also still have the up most respect for him,and would have a cuppa or beer with him any day.

We (Russ and myself) gave birth to the pulse motor build off's,which was a huge success for the years it was in play. The buldoff's just seemed to bring so many people together,and was a wack of fun.

Russ and myself use to be as thick as thieves,and it saddens me some what that we no longer seem to get together,and have a yarn.

Anyway Ed--forgive and forget--thats what i say.

Brad

It's tough with Russ and I as the history we have together is long and even though he will send me emails saying that he loves me his actions speak something entirely different to the point where it makes him out to be a hypocrite. It all went south when I tried to make an excitor array for everyone so that we could all be working on the same cell which would cut out some variables on our way towards solving Meyer's technology. This way we all would have the same cell and could share our work more effectively as we would be working from the same cell exactly. Russ and others saw it as if I was trying to steal money from Russ's crowdfunding thing he had going on at the time and I was accused by quite a few people as to be trying to rip off the members on the RWG form. Now the cell would have cost everyone $1000 USD each and this was at a time when Max was selling a cell for $2500 USD. Then someone else thought they would undercut the price I was selling them at to prove I was trying to rip everyone off failed because he found out it would cost him $1400 USD without shipping, wiring the thing up, and no float switch or hose connections of any kind which the ones I was offering everyone did come with. After he failed to prove I was trying to rip people off Russ, whom says he loves me, wouldn't come to my aid to clear my good name. All I was trying to do was to get us all working on the same cell so that we could compare numbers more effectively.
The reason no one could beat the prices I was offering them at to the RWG members was I was selling them at a loss which I made perfectly clear to Russ to try and get him to go to the site and clear my good name. For every ten units made I'd lose $100 USD out of my own pocket but to me it was worth it as we needed some sort of standardization so that we all could work together far more effectively. I tried several times to get Russ to go to the site and clear my good name but he simply wouldn't do so and still hasn't done so to this very day. It took me awhile to figure out why it was he would do so as that would mess up his funding that was pouring in from his site or that's what I summed it all down to. So, he was totally willing to allow me to be tossed under the bus.
He tried to apologize to me personally but I made it clear to him that it had to be done in a public way to clear my good name for my good name was smeared in a public place with these outright lies. Even now he comes to this site and accuses me of bashing people when all I was doing was defending myself when people picked fights with me. Those that chose to pick fights with me generally lost very badly as I was actually doing the work with all the proper equipment while most if not all of the work they were doing only took place between their ears. It seem to upset Russ to see me wining each and ever fight someone would chose to have with me no matter whom it was that chose to get into a fight with me. But he had none of those feelings for me the one actually getting picked on by so many people at once. Some of those people that picked fights with me were the monitors of the form and when they too started to lose badly they suspend me.  But I decided to leave their forum in a public way and they tried to keep all of my work after I had asked them nicely to take it all down. I threatened to sue them if all of my post and work wasn't taken down from their site and with great reluctance they finally took it all down.


Then after they saw me perform the impossible at the 2013 Global Breakthrough Energy Movement they allowed me back on the forum with the hopes that I would show them how I did it but in secret it was really done out of spike as you see the first time I willing chose to leave the forum and made it clear that I was the one doing so due to the double standard they had placed on those of us with businesses. This time they moved to ban me out of pure spike just so they could say that they banned me. But then I wrote a paper about it and they got wind of it and allowed me to not be banned but also not be able to make a single post on their site, but somehow I could still post in the chat room which was something they didn't anticipate. They got to talking about some people trying to get Russ to do things behind closed doors and I mentioned that perhaps those people understood how the markets actually worked. That got haxar really hot and he started kicking me out of the chat room and would take great joy in actually typing in the words, "Kicked Out," as if you shut down the page it would say that you had, "Logged Out." Now he was hiding behind his powers at the RWG and when I called him on being the one that had did the deed he then moved to give me the full ban which I posted above that I took a picture of before he could ban my computers IP address. There are some very evil people working for and/or on Russ's behalf, and haxar is one of those evil people. So for me they really haven't stopped their attacks on me as several of them came to this site to post negative things about me that had no truth in them or they would just start telling me that I had it coming, or I had to pay for something I had done in the past to them.


The irony of all of this will take place once they see and/or learn through the grapevine that I have a working prototype up and running. For it will be at the very moment that they will know that they had a chance to have this technology also if they had simply played by the rules and followed the scientific method as I had always ask them to follow. Yep, at that moment they will be going over anything they can find on the net about my work and trying to create new names from which to hide under trying to get/trick me into telling them how it all works. I think I already let it be known on this site that I simply do not teach this technology anymore as I have had my fill of these types of people.


Now I will choose to forgive Russ and his minions for what they have done but I will never forget as to do so would allow it to happen all over again.


Ed
CEO and Owner
True Green Solutions (TGS)