Howard Johnson Replication Tube Claim

[nyctuber]

Mylows new video is realy stupid and im about to block everthing and all Mylow in our studio...

his time is running out to Prove his self as i said to his brother Countless times and sent him messages...

He needs to let an indpendent group view this After so many Opertunitys for him to do so. he hasnt.

whats funny about that Last video he Posted.....

he did not show this SO CALLED Motor and batteries at work... moving his Disk along.

i give up with the mylow drama and i wish all you the best at getting this to work.

This latest episode occurred because someone took it upon themselves to post a video on youtube showing the supposed 'conclusive proof it's a fake' graphs and charts. Mylow managed to stop reading this forum, so what do they do? Bring it over to youtube. He's an emotional guy, it was not a cool thing to do imho.

P.S. Yes, it would be nice if it had 3rd party validation already, yes it's gone on a long time.

[Hoppy]

Yeh, RB's good, he's been doing this stuff for longer than most. But that fake English accent, come on, aren't Pirates supposed to talk like "Yar, matey, avast thar and belay that bilge" in a Jamaican accent?

In all fairness to Mylow, I think in most of the videos the stator support can be seen to be a u-channel, not a full square tube. I thot the same thing early on, but soon ruled it out because there aren't strong reaction forces between the stator mount and the disk anywhere that I can see; the stator mount is just standing there, and any acceleration force strong enough to accelerate that disk to full rpm in 39 seconds (in the Tony video) would be pushing back on the mount and would move it, I think. In the glass table video you can see just how lightweight the stator mount assembly is. Also in that video you can see how awkward it is to do the motions that he does-- stop rotor by hand, keep hand on rotor to prevent movement, remove stator mount, keep hand on rotor to prevent movement, until it's taken off the stub axle, and then the disk is used to block the view of the table with the stub axle...Try it yourself. See if it seems natural to do it that way. Unless of course the rotor wants to keep turning, then it's perfectly natural.

I agree with you that in Mylow's case I think it more likely that an electric motor was used either as a 'switched' motorised stub axle or friction drive on the rotor disk. However, I do think it possible that a small low resistance pulse motor coil could drive the rotor with the coil installed in an optimum position within the vertical section of the stator support arm. Only the coil is needed in this position; the pulse circuitry and battery could be placed anywhere else withing the stator arm support section. I must admit that I have not carefully studied the views of the rotor support arm when he picks it up, so I made an assumption that it was a full square section. Have you managed to observe the full channel section including the uprights?

Hoppy

Hoppy

[Bobbotov]

What I would like to see is someone, by any method, showing me that they can re-create the apparent effect in the videos he's created and I'll believe it's a fake... That's all.

Actually, from a scientific standpoint that only proves that it can be faked not that Mylow's is a fake.  The only real way to settle this is by having it verified by qualified, impartial scientists or engineers and by having others replicate the effect based on Mylow's precise criteria for construction. Without both of those it is nothing. Certainly if the Laws of Thermodynamics are to be rewritten I sincerely doubt a couple of YouTube videos by an eccentric are sufficient to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

[TinselKoala]

Why would I accuse you of faking something which I asked you to fake ?

I guess you don't remember when I first posted one of the alt_snakeoil videos, where I showed a driven disk doing what Mylow's did--I moved the camera around, showed the disk running, showed underneath, where you could clearly see the motor...there was no description and no claims and no narration. You should have seen the uproar!! Even though you could clearly see the motor, and hear it, the reactions went from total belief that I had duplicated Mylow's motor, to total flaming on me for fakery. I finally enabled remote annotation and let a few of my friends mark up the video, and one of them had to point out the motor. Then, there were further accusations of fakery!!

Is it OK if I just show the disk rotating, and accelerating of course, without the magnets? They are a real hassle to set up with the glue and all.
Or, why don't you just take my word for it. It's really kind of a lot of trouble, just to show You that it could be faked.
No, all right, I'll do it. Maybe. It's raining right now or I'd be outside, you might have to wait. Or will it be acceptable if I show it indoors? I don't have a glass table but I have a floor...I think.

[TinselKoala]

Actually, from a scientific standpoint that only proves that it can be faked not that Mylow's is a fake.  The only real way to settle this is by having it verified by qualified, impartial scientists or engineers and by having others replicate the effect based on Mylow's precise criteria for construction. Without both of those it is nothing. Certainly if the Laws of Thermodynamics are to be rewritten I sincerely doubt a couple of YouTube videos by an eccentric are sufficient to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Exactly.
That's why I haven't pushed the effort to re-create a fake. But it's easy, believe me. Well, not easy like in trivial, but far easier than setting up a Zinsser kinetobaric experiment, for example.