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The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

Started by Mannix, January 30, 2006, 06:18:53 PM

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orionjf

Dear all,
First, congratulations to all team with a special mention for people who are building models and they are sharing results.
Dave (ctglabs), tao, .. I think the last ideas could be a key for a future (I hope sooner than later) understanding of SM device. So, Dave, go ahead with your experiments ?
Talking about the latest results, I want to give you my opinion, based on some similar tests with transformers. I think you are using a very high resistance for loading, then the transformer works as an ideal voltage generator (similar with an open circuit). This is a non-linear V-I relationship that can produce false results. If you try to change the load (use a variable resistor, for instance) and the V output does not change, that is. When you find the first (or the highest) load value that Vout decreases if you decrease the load, that is the minimum current that can cancel the flux generated by the primary. Beyond this point, the equation Vi*Ii=Vo*Io (without losses) is valid and the power is the same (in-out). But if Io is close to zero due to a high resistance in the output, Vo tends to infinite (Vo=Vi*Ii/Io) but it is limited by EMF value.
Then, I think you have to test a lower value for loading (1K for instance). Don?t worry if you have a very small voltage. Then make the measure of one input and output and two inputs and output. Maybe I am wrong but I had a lot of surprises in the past working with transformers in non-linear situations. If you get the same effect, GREAT !!!!! and congratulations again !!!!!!  ;)

I think it is a very good approach to mix signals, and the white noise can be a very good idea. You can ?mix? adding ? or multiplying. In the second case (similar to radio detection) you have a DC component and harmonics. Doing it n times, you have a very high DC component and a high freq.-low amplitude ripple. White noise has infinite energy due to the high (infinity) bandwidth, but it is not useful because the power (amplitude) is too small. But if we can ?concentrate? near to DC by freqs translation (multiply) a spread spectrum of noise, and then adding in an accumulative process, we have the same ?energy? but a lot of power near to DC. It is similar to concentrate in a few seconds (nuclear explosion) the natural radioactivity of uranium that runs billions years: you have the same energy but, obviously, more power. Just a thought maybe wrong.

Regards

giantkiller

@dave!

Plz for the sake of prosperity. On your OU(if I may be so bold) transformer circuit, plug in the square wave to double the kicks! Maybe, no?
Maybe you scope will peg? ;)

giantkiller

@Tao
Great sims. 8)

Although, reality does tend to play unfair sometimes...

hartiberlin

Quote from: ctglabs on October 08, 2006, 04:55:25 PM
Stefan I have tried the out of phase idea using the circuit from my last post but having the phases the other way round so they cancel perfectly.

All I see on the scope is a dead line as the primary signals cancel.  No strange feeling on my skin or lamps falling off the shelf!  But I am using very lower power...




Regards,

Dave.

Hi Dave,
please try again and use something like a 240 to 2 x 6 Volts transformer.
Could also be 2 x 12 or 2 x 15 Volts .

Then drive the 2 coils, that are normally the secondary coils
with 2 noise generators, which are not synchron.
Do it this way, that the coils voltages would normally cancel
out each other.

Then look at the 240 Volts coil and see, if it has spikes.
Maybe you can drive a fluorescent tube with it.

The good thing should be, that if you load
the 240 Volts coil with a load, the other 2 input coils
should not be loaded much, that means, if you pull out more
power from the output, that should not need more input
power at the input.

Of course the question is, if you are at the right working
point on the BH diagram of the transformer core.
Could be, that you must bring the core into saturation or shortly
before this, so please try to put in not mikroWatts, but at least
a few hundred milliWatts.

If you don?t have 2 noise generators, you could also try
with 2 out of phase square wave generators.

Many thanks.

Regads, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

hartiberlin

Quote from: tao on October 06, 2006, 02:12:19 AM
I figure now is as good a time as any to drop a BOMB OF COINCIDENCE concerning SM's words and a real phenomenon....





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Steven Mark's Words
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These are direct quotes from Steven Mark about his devices:

Here SM says that his devices work like radio receivers:
Think of the power unit as a device similar to a radio receiver.No I do not want to hear feed back informing me that I am trying to convince the world my unit works on radio waves!!!.

Here SM says that his different devices use different frequencies and that the closer you get to the 'center frequency'/'ideal frequency' that you will permit more power output:
My units behave as though they are variable tuning devices, and we are tuning them to a frequency just like a radio. The closer you get to the center frequency the more power you permit the collector to dissipate into a load.

Here SM is saying something VERY IMPORTANT, that you make several frequencies in the SPACE OF THE COLLECTOR COILS CIRCUMFERENCE and that the DIAMETER/CIRCUMFERANCE determines the 'center frequency'/'ideal frequency' of his different devices, if Steven's collector coils are indeed loop antennas then this makes perfect sense, different circumferances, different 'center/idea frequencies':
The important difference here is that in the case of the radio, you tune into the frequency and amplify it for use. In the case of my power unit, you create several frequencies within a space of the collector coil's circumference. The frequencies are directly related to the circumference of the collector coil.

Here SM talks about the signal source, i.e. the 'several frequencies in the SPACE OF THE COLLECTOR COILS CIRCUMFERENCE' having the characteristic that it has inherent gain:
You can begin to collect the current and dissipate it with no need for amplification because the signal source also becomes the feed for the power source and has the natural tendency to run with gain. 

Here SM refers to the fact that if you were to tune directly to the 'center frequency'/'ideal frequency' which is based on the circumferance of the device, that you would destroy the device, well think about that, if SM used the technique from above and he stayed at one frequency and he looped the output at 1.5x COP to the input, then the device would surely be "instantly destroyed":
It is important that you note that you can never tune too closely to the exact frequencies of power conversion because the power received by the collector will instantly destroy it. We instead must deliberately tune off the frequencies of conversion in order to make the thing properly work.

Here SM is explaining that you must constantly move AROUND, i.e. above and below, the 'center/ideal frequency' because if you stay on it too long the device would smoke itself:
Remember that it is like a furnace which feeds itself. The hotter it gets the more fuel it gives itself to burn. that is why the control units are so very important. Without the control unit constantly monitoring the frequencies of operation and making the necessary changes to keep the whole thing off exact conversion frequency, then the unit would very quickly destroy it's self.


END SECTION THREE


I have MUCH more to say about Steven's words regarding the KICKS and combining KICKS, and how they exactly match the Hungarian scientist works above. I will guide you in detail through the exact similarities.

I will post more later, this took me a while to format and its 1am ;).


Almost forgot, here are the links to the above info from the Hungarians:

Free energy from wave-fields (Introduction):
http://www.gyogyitokezek.hu/fe/interference.htm

Simplified explanation how to gain free energy from wave-fields:
http://www.gyogyitokezek.hu/fe/studyexp.htm

Janos Vajda is ?Violation of The Energy Thesis in Wave-Fields? is here:
.DOC Format(self-extracting) = http://www.gyogyitokezek.hu/fe/study11_w.exe
.HTML Format = http://www.gyogyitokezek.hu/fe/study1.htm

Hi Tao,
nice, that you have found that.
It seems this is probably the most realistic explanation,
how the SM devices could work.

The question then is only,
why do they stop to work,
when you turn them around by 180 degrees ?

If this is the basic principle, it is sure, that you can start with a few millivolts
of induction by waiving a permanent magnet across the unit and
then the unit starts to run up.

But I think, this probably must be used with short pulses
traveling on transmission lines or coil wires,
but I guess the transformer setup, which Dave presented is flawed,
as I will post next.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum