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The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

Started by Mannix, January 30, 2006, 06:18:53 PM

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giantkiller

Simplicity leads to awareness of the obvious.

The graphics depicts what we know about current flow and magnetic fields.

The striped toroid is the mag field from the control coil 'A'.
And according to the right hand rule lets say the green arrow is the induced current flow.

When the current flows through the collector to the next control coil 'B' a new field will be induced into the next control coil 'B'.

Now the control coils are sequence pulsed in the direction of the induced current while still maintaining the right hand rule. This was put in place by the direction we wound the control coil windings.

So additively we have an induced field in the coil that we are about to pulse next.

Time this just right to reduce losses.

Now lets stack three of these ring configurations and pulse each sequence just behind the other ring at a 90d phase. I have them spread apart for viewing. Marco had a good animated gif of current flow with moving arrows on his coils posted a while back. The second one from the bottom is the one we will focus on. Square pulses incite quick fields and the smooth sequencing will get you the additive power you get from the kicks in harmonic resonancy.

If the 3 rings were adjacent in close proximity then the mag fields from each ring would also induce current in its partner. My ears are starting to ring now.

Time this just right to add pressure. I see 'push comes to shove'.

I have three rings in sequence in 1 pic and two rings in phase behind the middle ring in another pic. Hence the two frequencies, top and bottom, and the middle one. We'll call this one a 'Magnetic bulldozer'.

These revisions exemplify the need for the segmented control coils.

Now what if the center control coils were not pulsed. Then the induced current on the middle collector and the control coils could be siphoned off, no? This would lend credence to 'Some are conected in parallel and some in series'. This also looks like a magnetic Tesla coil.

Oh, BTW, The 90d coupling happens twice. Can you see it? It is not a problem.


--giantkiller

P.S. To the MIBs: we know you see and we don't care...

giantkiller

So then, there is no current in the center collector wiring?
Then why pulse the controllers?
If one were to pulse the collector and read off the controller coils, that just equates to a circular step up transformer.
The thing that makes the toroid different is the segmented pulsing for the rotationg magnetic field and or the increasing and decreasing magnetic pressure in the center of the core/field.
Since this project has the rotational field by segmented control imbedded in it, there has been no mention of the consequences of magnetic center spinning around off center. Does this happen anywhere else?
There are two outcomes to this project. Electrical and magnetic. They are tightly bound together. I am concerned with both. And in both arenas there has been progress made. And it does seem that major steps can be taken by putting together the steps that don't seem to do much but quantitatively the output is phenominal. That is what Tesla's findings are. All the incremental parts of his findings are in every day life. But put them together and the sum is much bigger than the parts. You end up with devices that scare upper management.

Thanks for the critiques, RFC on my drawings. I don't want to waste time or server space.

With the added ads down the side, the 10 posts per page are longer than they should be, navigationally speaking. Be careful what we ask for. I save many posts by page number to my messages. Double them , divide by 2, more work, lost doco. The design guide has chunks missing till I decide to go back and research. My time on this site is for moving forward, not back peddling. Sigh... The post speed has the needle pegged. If one spends too much time looking back, one eats dust.

--giantkiller

jacob

Quote from: ctglabs on October 21, 2006, 08:44:39 AM
Hi Dom,  I am sure the thing has a rotating field and winds up when started.  The compass spins faster and faster until the field spins too fast for the compass to keep up.

I am sure there is an IC in the centre box controlling the rotating field or something.

Indeed, there is an IC in the control circuit, but it is not involved in rotating the field.

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I can create a rotating field with or without ICs, I can make one that winds up by itself by using transistors and feeding one control coil to the next, etc.

All this is easy.  The biggest problem to me is why there is such a large coupling at 90 degrees.

In normal terms this would be so unefficient as to be worthless.  But SM seems to indicate it is an important factor, yet no conventional circuits can make use of this?  We can talk about rotating fields and harmonics and any other previously known and well understood phenomenah, but none of it explains why he has such a strong coupling at 90 degrees between the contol and collector coils?

Like SM said, what we know from conventional electromagnetism may not serve us well here.

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I think we are waisting our time until we understand how such a strong and efficient 90 degree coupling can exist!

Why don't you explore this avenue as we know for sure that this is how it works. Then, when you hit on the effect, you'll have plenty of time to figure it out.

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But having said this the smaller see through device doesnt have this, just 4 bifilar coils, thats it!

Are we to take what we can see with our own eyes in the video, or are we to listen to so called SM emails via Mannix that we have no evidence are really from SM?  I am not saying that are not, just its hard to know the wheat from the chaf.

The see through device also have this. It's just that you don't see it. And neither can you see it in the toroidal devices. But it (collector orientation) has been confirmed by SM as accurate.

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So we have a mix of frequencys and rotating fields, in normal terms this still won't couple to the collector!  So it cannot be normal EM interaction, its must be something else, radiant energy, longitudinal EM wave or something.  And lets say you have a 90 degree coupling that works, what will make it so special that it won't be subject to the normal losses of 0 degree coupling?  In other words, lets say you had a 90 degree coupling that worked, why should this be overunity?  Where is the extra energy coming from?

Lets say even that some frequencys can mix and create a larger amplitude which contains more energy, like the two sinewaves adding.  This still wont couple to a 90 degree collector.  So what is going on?

Magnetic resonance.

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I think its easy to get carried away with so many ideas, we need to get back to basics!  How can we get a 90 degree coupling?  How can this be possible?  Perhaps when this is clear, the rest will become clear?  The rotating frequencys and mix must in some way create a situation which allows the impossible 90 degree coupling...

I submit to you that the extra energy being picked up by the collector coils might not be a result of coupling, but the manifestation of another phenomena. Think about it...

Regards,

Jacob

jacob

@giantkiller,

Someone mentioned it earlier, but you deserve it once more: your graphics are really stunning! Good work!

Quote from: giantkiller on October 21, 2006, 02:18:25 PM
Marco had a good animated gif of current flow with moving arrows on his coils posted a while back. The second one from the bottom is the one we will focus on.

I must respectfully disagree with you giantkiller: Marco does have good animated gifs, but unfortunately none represent the way the control coils should be pulsed.

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P.S. To the MIBs: we know you see and we don't care...

The military probably isn't overly worried either. They have certainly noticed that the only rotational movement going on here doesn't involve magnetic flux but people, going round in circle trying to figure it out.   :D  

Regards,

Jacob

jacob

Quote from: -[marco]- on October 21, 2006, 04:20:32 PM
Quote from: jacob on October 21, 2006, 03:58:10 PM


I submit to you that the extra energy being picked up by the collector coils might not be a result of coupling, but the manifestation of another phenomena. Think about it...

Regards,

Jacob

i think he means the extra energy is coming from the ionization of the molecules in the air.
but he wont tell us because he likes to keeps things for himself.

so no offence jacob....im just spitting out all i know to try and help the others here understand.
marco

There is no offence Marco. Actually, your theory is interesting. But it would imply that the TPU would not work in the absence of air. Do you think that's the case?

Regards,

Jacob