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Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Started by AquariuZ, April 03, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

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Omnibus

Quote from: Cherryman on April 10, 2009, 07:37:23 PM
I Can do that, but it doesn't work the, otherwise i would be cheering a little harder  ;D

I think it's a bug in WD2D that when you remove the motor the structure falls apart..  So I have to rebuilt them.. That will be not tonight.

You can do it yorself to. Just select and erease everything besides the shapes and rebuilt it. It ain't that many parts.



Please, rebuild these two (KAD9 and KAD10) without a motor. I'm new to this and don't know how to do it. From my perspective to include a motor in these simulations makes no sense. Motor activity should be excluded by presumption in it's entirety and there should be no hidden activities that may suggest that the rotor is driven by a motor in any way. I thought setting torque to zero and zeroing out the velocities and such would be sufficient but obviously it isn't. That's very contradictory but that's how the program works.

AquariuZ

Quote from: Dusty on April 10, 2009, 07:14:27 PM
I have a different idea as to how this wheel works, so here is a video as to how I think it works:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh7GAUYg_E8&feature=channel_page

Over this weekend I'm going to build a unit and see if my theory is correct.

Great input! Also it is fun to see my snapshots being used for the higher goal...

You may very well be onto something as he clearly states that the weights move in pairs, the path is preset through the system and : while one weight is falling another is being lifted without effort (friction?)

Really looking forward to your ideas, this is what it is all about!!

Cherryman

Quote from: Omnibus on April 10, 2009, 08:19:57 PM
Please, rebuild these two (KAD9 and KAD10) without a motor. I'm new to this and don't know how to do it. From my perspective to include a motor in these simulations makes no sense. Motor activity should be excluded by presumption in it's entirety and there should be no hidden activities that may suggest that the rotor is driven by a motor in any way. I thought setting torque to zero and zeroing out the velocities and such would be sufficient but obviously it isn't. That's very contradictory but that's how the program works.

The reason i use a motor is that to get the rotational speed to make the difference , you need a start speed.  And with the way i build my model i cannot drop a ball on to the,. I haven't got time now to rebuilt. Maybe tomorrow evening, sorry.


Grimer

Quote from: Omnibus on April 10, 2009, 08:14:12 PM
@spinner,

But that’s what Sjack Abeling claims his device is doing.

But you may say again ‘why not?’, if this Dutch institution confirms it has indeed given the permission, the way you said it regarding Henkel. If Henkel’s confirmation isn’t convincing enough to you why should this be? The truth is, nothing can prove the validity of Sjack Abeling’s claim or any other claim for that matter but independent verification by third parties.

Good post, Omnibus. :)

I knew nothing about Bessler's wheels until I looked it up the history very recently. The amazing thing I find is that there was heaps of confirmation by independent parties of its working. How people failed to discover his "secret" over all these years is the real mystery to me.  ???

Sjack's claims dovetail perfectly with the history of Bessler's invention.

I look forward to the fat lady's singing. 8)

Who is she that cometh forth as the morning rising  -  Fair as the moon. Bright as the sun  -  Terrible as an army set in battle array.

Omnibus

@Grimer,

The communication means during the times of Bessler are incomparable to what we have now, wouldn't you agree? Nowadays such a thing will spread like wildfire if there's anything to it and no one would be able to contain it. In this respect it's interesting to see how people like Abeling are still holding on to the old-fashioned ways such as patents of protecting their rights. Full disclosure and ensuring that it's reproduced by as many people as possible is the best way nowadays to protect your rights for a construction which can hardly contain trade secrets. Do you think the world would ignore the fact that Mylow was the first to demonstrate a perpetuum mobile, had it had any merit to it and innumerable fellows around the world had reproduced it? I don't think so. The permission by whatever Dutch institution is also curious. While it may work for the benefit of the Dutch government in a short term, it will be beyond control in a not so far future if it really is true and no one will ask for their permission.