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Overunity Machines Forum



Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Started by AquariuZ, April 03, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

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Omnibus

@mondrasek,

QuoteWhen you bring a weight on a spinning wheel inwards towards the axle, you must do work.  Spin around holding a weight at arm's length and try to pull it in.  It takes work.

Don’t forget we’re interested here only in the energy possessed by the ball (there’s no external energy anyway).

Imagine a ball lifted to point B at an elevation h with respect to the initial point A. It can get back at its initial height A by just letting it go and allowing it to drop vertically. However, if there’s a construction (constraint) which would make the ball slide sideways to the initial elevation A it would have lost the same gravitational potential energy mgh but in addition there would also be a displacement sideways which wasn’t there when there was no construction. Thus only the presence of a proper construction makes the ball lose the same energy mgh but in a different way, demonstrating a spectacular displacement sideways.

Cherryman

Here a quick one. I Used the original curves.

Have a problem with the left block, but do nat have any time anymore. Maybe someone can fixe the block

Good luck.


noonespecial

I agree with LarryC's assessment with regard to the centrifigal force component. Also, the upper cam is not really required once the wheel reaches critical speed but is only there to lift the weights prior to reaching that speed.

i_ron

Quote from: noonespecial on April 12, 2009, 08:43:38 PM
I agree with LarryC's assessment with regard to the centrifigal force component. Also, the upper cam is not really required once the wheel reaches critical speed but is only there to lift the weights prior to reaching that speed.

To the contrary, you and Larry seem to have missed a key function here, the top part of the upper ramp
in combination with the shape of the slot act to propel the weight out into its working position. Think of a pair of scissors....

"If the system would fail to catch the propelled weight, the weight would be ejected from the system with force"

Ron.

noonespecial

Hi Ron,

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Q: Where does the extra energy come from?
A: The weights are applied two by two: one weight is pushing/falling, the other one has to be lifted. Due to the invention of the dual lifting system, the falling/pushing weight will hardly be hindered by the weight that has to be lifted.
In the top left of the system the weight is accelerated (like with shot put). The weight is moving faster than the system, and as the system catches the weight it is propelled forward. The path of the weights in the system is determined up front so the weights are always in a fixed position relative to each other and that will reduce the drag of the lifted weight on the falling/pushing weight. The system will start rotating from any position. Extra force is generated in the lower left of the system and on top it is transferred to the system itself, generating the extra energy. If the system would fail to catch the propelled weight, the weight would be ejected from the system with force.

Nothing in here about a 'scissor' action. In fact, if there were a scissor action it would seem the additional friction would simply slow the wheel down. Instead, the propelled weight is 'moving faster than the system' (once a critical speed is reached) through the effect of centrifigal force.
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Charlie